497: Finding The Authentic Therapist In You with Stefanie Klein
Therapy Chat
Laura Reagan, LCSW-C
4.4 • 762 Ratings
🗓️ 8 September 2025
⏱️ 59 minutes
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Summary
How can therapists learn to see countertransference as a gift, rather than a problem? This week's guest is Stefanie Klein, LCSW. Stefanie, an SEP and NARM Master Therapist, is the Assistant Training Director for the Complex Trauma Training Center where she is also a consultant and faculty in the NeuroAffective Relational Model (NARM) and the new SPACE program for psychotherapists.
Our conversation was about how can feel more effective in their work with clients, while also experiencing more ease and fulfillment in their professional roles through the SPACE program Stefanie co-created with Brad Kammer of NARM (a previous Therapy Chat guest). Stefanie has 30 years of experience practicing psychotherapy with adults in her Los Angeles private practice, where she has specialized in treating trauma and anxiety for the past 20 years.
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| 0:00.0 | Therapy Notes is the highest rated EHR, practice management, and billing software for mental health |
| 0:05.1 | professionals. It's all-in-one platform is designed to streamline all aspects of your practice, |
| 0:10.2 | from connecting with clients via secure messages to scheduling, notes, billing, and more. |
| 0:15.0 | You can trust Therapy Notes has you covered. And one of the best parts? 24-7 customer service |
| 0:20.3 | with a live person. It's beyond easy to get help |
| 0:23.1 | over the phone or by email at any time of day from their knowledgeable and friendly representatives. |
| 0:27.9 | The best time to give Therapy Notes a try is now. Sign up for your free trial by going to |
| 0:32.2 | TherapyNotes.com, clicking Start My Free Trial, and accessing your first two months free with the promo code chat. |
| 0:38.6 | CY Therapy Notes is the most trusted E.HR for behavioral health professionals today. |
| 0:43.5 | Therapy Chat Podcast, episode 497. |
| 0:47.8 | This is the Therapy Chat podcast with Laura Regan, LCSWC. |
| 0:54.6 | The information shared in this podcast is not a substitute for seeking help from a licensed |
| 0:59.5 | mental health professional. |
| 1:01.9 | And now, here's your host, Laura Reagan, LCSWC. |
| 1:07.5 | Thank you. SWC. |
| 1:25.4 | Hi, welcome back to therapy chat. |
| 1:27.0 | I'm your host, Laura Reagan. And this week, I'm bringing you a conversation about a topic that I think many therapists wonder about. In my community, trauma therapist network, which is also called TTN for short. We often talk about bringing your presence as a relational therapist to your practice with clients, |
| 1:47.5 | and it's the relationship that is the most important factor. |
| 1:52.1 | That's not just what we talk about in TTN, but most therapists know that the relationship is the most |
| 1:57.7 | important intervention in successful outcomes according to meta-analyses. |
| 2:04.4 | So we talk about the importance of self-awareness and identifying and working on and working |
| 2:11.9 | through our own issues, which we as humans who are therapists, all have, just like everyone else in life, we all have |
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