This is Jocco podcast number 496 with Echo Charles and me, Joccoe.

Good evening, Echo.

Good evening.

So I get asked a lot of questions for years.

Get asked questions about toxic leadership, right?

Questions like, what do you do?

What should I do if I have a toxic leader or how do you handle the company when there's toxic leadership?

That kind of thing.

But the problem with the's toxic leadership that kind of thing but the

problem with the term toxic leadership and toxicity and specifically toxic leadership is that's such a

broad term and you know when someone tells me they have a toxic leader could mean a whole bunch of

different things even though we kind of all know

what it means, right?

It means bad leadership.

That's what everyone's implying.

Well, I found a paper written by an Army colonel that was at the Army War College.

And it's just a paper about toxic leaders.

And the characteristics of toxic leaders and then the types of toxic leaders that they

become.

And I think it's really, when I read it, it's one of those things, you know, when you

get a certain type of car and then you're driving around and you keep seeing that type of car everywhere? Yeah, fully. It's one of those things, you know when you get a certain type of car and then you're driving

around and you keep seeing that type of car everywhere? Yeah, fully. It's like that, but as you

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