I know I'm going to end up disappointed by the end of the night, but sitting here now where ignorance is lists

I am so excited for the after show you've been on fire with the list puns recently

They've been well, I don't know if if fire is joy that I'm in car tuning car gym you've been on this mud waterfall

All right, so Rob sayer writes Casey mentioned the Oracle Android Java case in the S3 API

Conversation so to back up half step we were talking about is it okay to copy a developer another parties API is that cool

Is that not cool and I said oh well, you know there's a big lawsuit between Oracle and you know Android who had basically copied but

Reimplemented the Java APIs or at least that's my vague understanding of it

So I'm going to rob continues the supreme court said that this was fair use

I've always found this case funny because Oracle in fact copies the S3 API

So here was Oracle took Google and Android and so on to court saying oh you copied our stuff and then Oracle turned right around and said

Oh, you know we're gonna copy the S3 API. That sounds great. Thank you. I'm sure what Oracle would say is that

Well APIs are not all the same. We're talking about and you know programming interface or local code on the machine and this is a network

Protocol HTTP requests for certain paths and parameters and so on and that's totally different

These days we think of them all as APIs, but there is a case three made that if there was to be some kind of law

Coming out of that

Java Oracle thing might not apply to network APIs

that's fair point and

With regard to

Marcos

Tehr which I thought was was justified at the time about Apple in the hypothetical Apple car

They wouldn't want to put any like branding on the tires. They would want like a completely flat tire

You didn't go so far as to say white walls, but he's never know if Johnny is still if Johnny is still contracting

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