494: When Someone You Love Is Addicted and Why They Can't "Just Quit" with Chris Doyle
Midlife Conversations with Natalie Jill: Fat Loss, Hormones & Health for Women Over 40
Natalie Jill
4.8 • 635 Ratings
🗓️ 25 November 2025
⏱️ 73 minutes
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Summary
What if your attempts to help someone with their addiction were actually making things worse?
This conversation with addiction intervention specialist Chris Doyle shattered every assumption I had about addiction, from why some people can't stop after their first drink to why taking away privileges might be the worst thing you can do. We explore the complexities of addiction and its impact on families. Chris, sober 18 years himself, reveals the shocking truth that addiction starts at age 12 for most, affects 10-15% of those who experiment, and has nothing to do with bad parenting or weak character.
We dive deep into the critical difference between dependency and addiction (hint: it's just two words), why your typical parenting strategies backfire catastrophically, and the "Connected Response Method" that actually works. Chris shares his mother's brilliant response when he came home drunk at 17, explains why addiction is like a shrimp allergy, and reveals the toxic relationship between codependency and addiction.
Essential listening for any midlife parent, partner, or person touched by addiction -- which, statistically, is almost all of us.
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| 0:00.0 | Addiction is a lot more common than I believe people realize, me included. |
| 0:05.9 | I don't think I fully understood how much addiction affects people's lives. |
| 0:10.5 | When you look at the amount of people in our country alone that either navigate their own |
| 0:16.0 | addictions or are dealing with a family member or close personal friend navigating addiction. |
| 0:21.7 | It's very, very real. |
| 0:23.2 | And I think it's one of the most misunderstood topics that there is. |
| 0:26.9 | I think there is a lot of blame every direction when it comes to addiction. |
| 0:31.2 | There's a lot of confusing information on how to navigate it for yourself or for a family member. |
| 0:37.1 | Welcome to Midlife Conversations. |
| 0:39.1 | I'm your host, Natalie Gillen. |
| 0:40.4 | I'm passionate about having amazing conversations that matter to us midlife women. |
| 0:45.4 | On this podcast, I do what I do best, taking complicated health topics and breaking them |
| 0:50.0 | down simply so that we can optimize aging together. |
| 0:53.7 | I share actionable steps to help you thrive |
| 0:55.9 | in what I believe are our best years to come. Join me as I interview the most inspiring people |
| 1:01.7 | living their best midlife years and dive into essential topics like hormone changes, |
| 1:06.2 | health optimization, weight management, blood sugar, emotional well-being, relationships, beauty, and so much more. |
| 1:14.0 | Today, I think this is perfect topic to dive into, especially most of you listening, your mid-life |
| 1:20.7 | time, and you might have your own struggles, a struggle with a spouse, but also kids, especially |
| 1:26.9 | at our age group where they are teens, |
| 1:29.1 | they're becoming empty nesters, they're getting into young adult. So today we're having a |
| 1:34.1 | really real discussion about all variables here. I've got Chris Doyle on who helps families |
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