492: Life After Prison with Jesse Crosson
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Lucas Rockwood
4.8 • 1.1K Ratings
🗓️ 1 December 2021
⏱️ 44 minutes
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Summary
There are 2.3 million people incarcerated in the United States, and another four million on parole or probation. When you factor in families of inmates, prison employees, and infrastructure, we’re talking about billions of dollars annually and tens of millions of lives affected daily.
My guest on this week’s show is a violent crime offender and former inmate. When I first heard what he had done, my initial thought was, “Lock him up and don't let him out.” Probably, many of you will feel that way. But that’s not possible and it’s not a solution. Crime, and even violent crimes, are part of society. The only hope is that our correctional facilities are actually helping people reform.
On this week’s show:
- Why many people have no access to mental health services
- How drugs are smuggled into prison
- Why most have no access to college education
- Why the correctional system is not doing much in the way of correcting
ABOUT OUR GUEST
Jesse Crosson was recently released from prison and is the founder of Pri-Zen.com. He’s in the process of (re)building his life and is doing advocacy work while pursuing advanced degrees to help people inside the system.
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| 0:00.0 | So around 20 years ago, I spent a few months living with my father into Hatchapy, which |
| 0:08.8 | is a very, very small town, kind of in the Mojave Desert in, it's kind of a high desert |
| 0:14.1 | in Southern California. |
| 0:15.6 | And just outside of Chatchapy, there's a Supermax, California prison. |
| 0:20.6 | And you know, I'd ride by that in a car and I would of course run into people in the |
| 0:25.4 | town who worked there. |
| 0:26.5 | One of the larger employers, maybe the largest employer in this little town in the Mojave |
| 0:31.1 | Desert. |
| 0:32.4 | And it always just kind of was there. |
| 0:34.8 | And I just always imagined all these people, all these men in prison. |
| 0:38.8 | And what that was about, and as the years have gone on, we've had so many different |
| 0:41.7 | guests on the podcast who've worked in and around prisons, whether they were therapists |
| 0:46.5 | or conflict resolution interpersonal skills yoga teachers who go into prisons. |
| 0:51.5 | And I've just been thinking a lot more, especially with US system, where there's millions |
| 0:55.8 | of people who are actively in prison, what happens when people get out? |
| 1:00.2 | And they do get out, of course, and make people deserve to get out. |
| 1:03.0 | In fact, a lot of people didn't deserve to be there in the first place. |
| 1:06.0 | Some people are there for laws that don't even exist anymore. |
| 1:09.3 | And this idea of corrections is, it seems like a misnomer. |
| 1:13.7 | I don't know anything about prisons I would like to learn more. |
| 1:17.1 | And that's why I brought in our guests this week. |
| 1:19.4 | If you're new here, it's Tadukis Rockwood show. |
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