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The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Michael Mogill

49. Kyle Bachus — Embracing Change as the Catalyst to Growth

The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Michael Mogill

Michael Mogill

Management, Business, Marketing, Entrepreneurship

5.0540 Ratings

🗓️ 16 March 2021

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

"I think that all along the path of the history of our law firm, we have tried to stay on the front side of technology, the front side of the marketing curve, and to try to make sure that we are committed to change, not committed to the same." - Kyle Bachus Why did Kyle Bachus leave his life in Florida behind for the unknowns of Colorado? How did Kyle start his practice with little to no money? Why do lawyers need to commit to progress and be mindful of new media technologies? How did Kyle's firm lose out on $10 million — and how you can avoid the same mistake? Kyle Bachus: Natural Born Lawyer Kyle Bachus is a personal injury lawyer and founding partner of Bachus & Schanker in Denver, Colorado. Kyle has been standing up to authority and rooting for the underdogs since high school, and at 17 he successfully argued his case in front of the Florida Supreme Court in a mock trial. Kyle's passion for advocating for the little guy drove him to become a personal injury attorney, and he now represents victims and their families in catastrophic injury and wrongful death cases. In this episode, Kyle tells us about his professional journey, why he left the familiarity of Florida behind to strike out on his own in Colorado, and how he and his partner built one of the most successful law firms in the US out of nothing. Adapting and Overcoming: Keeping Ahead in the Legal Marketing Space Life isn't like Field of Dreams, and getting people through your doors isn't as easy as hoping "if you build it, they will come." Kyle recognized early on that organic growth on its own wasn't going to take his firm to where he and his partner wanted it to go. Kyle tells us why he made such huge investments in TV advertising and how it was a long time before he earned his $1 million gamble back in cases. He also shares why good law firms need to have great marketing campaigns and why you shouldn't be blinkered to new and emerging media technologies if you want to remain competitive. Missed Calls are Dollars Burned You can throw as much money at marketing as you want, but if you're not able to take all the calls that are coming in, you may as well be flushing money down the drain. Kyle recognized that his firm didn't have a problem with call volume — but it did have a problem with client experience. Calls and clients were slipping through his fingers because the systems weren't in place to respond to every query that came in. He explains why it's vital to be responsive to any incoming request and why you shouldn't burden non-call-center staff with answering phones. Key takeaways: Put clients at the heart of your processes, and always be looking for ways to improve the structures you have in place to offer a greater user experience. Big rewards require big risks, but it doesn't mean they can't be calculated. So don't dismiss large investments with even larger long-term rewards. Do what's best for your clients, even if that means fighting your superiors to ensure you get the resources necessary to put forward the best case you can. Links and Resources The Game Changing Attorney Podcast Michael Mogill Facebook Michael Mogill Twitter Michael Mogill Instagram Michael Mogill LinkedIn Crisp Video Website Crisp Video Facebook Crisp Video Group Twitter Crisp Video Instagram Crisp Video LinkedIn Kyle Bachus LinkedIn Bachus Schanker Website

Transcript

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You can get the phone to ring.

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You might be able to get people to submit forms.

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If you're not responsive, you literally are flushing dollars down the drain.

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That's Kyle Backus, co-founder and managing partner of Denver-based personal injury firm, Bacchus and Shanker.

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I think that all along the path of the history of our law firm, we have tried to

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stay on the front side of technology, the front side of the marketing curve, and to try to

0:32.1

make sure that we are committed to change. And those that commit to change are committed to the future.

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I'm Michael Mogul, founder and CEO of Crisp Video, the nation's number one law firm growth

0:48.0

company. I've built my business through practice, not theory. Crisp started with just $500

0:52.5

to my name and has grown to over eight figures in revenue over the last few years, earning a spot on the Inc 500 list of the fastest growing private companies in America.

1:00.9

Our approach has been to take everything we've learned about generating massive growth within our own organization and help the country's most ambitious and committed law firm owners do the same for theirs.

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In each episode of this podcast,

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I sit down with innovative market leaders from the legal industry and beyond. To learn from those

1:16.0

who thrive in the face of adversity, challenge the status quo, and define what it means to be a true

1:20.4

game changer. I sat down with Kyle Backus to discuss the most impactful decisions he and his partner

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made as they scaled their law firm, as well as

1:27.9

the numerous challenges they had to overcome as they grew their practice and became a market leader.

1:32.6

We are fully aware that the only path to success is through making many, many, many mistakes.

1:39.5

And we have made thousands of mistakes.

1:44.9

And half of them were my idea and probably the other half were his idea.

1:49.5

And we have lived with each other's mistakes as we have become successful in the process.

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That's coming up on the Game Changing Attorney podcast.

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