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The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Michael Mogill

48. Eric Siu — Leveling Up: How to Master the Game of Life

The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Michael Mogill

Michael Mogill

Management, Business, Marketing, Entrepreneurship

5.0540 Ratings

🗓️ 9 March 2021

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

"You don't deserve to go to the next level until you beat the current one. That's just life. But you don't have to go to the next level if you don't want to." - Eric Siu Why has gaming influenced Eric's life and business practices so heavily? How can real-life "power-ups" help you to get the most out of your day? Why does Eric think poker should be taught at school? How does Eric use negative energy to boost his motivation? Eric Siu: Gaming Life and Business Eric Siu is an investor, podcaster, and author with a talent for leveling up businesses. But Eric's business know-how doesn't just come from book study. In fact, Eric credits most of his business acumen to his other passion: gaming. By relating his world to aspects of his favorite games (power-ups, character classes, etc.) Eric discovered the key elements to succeeding in his work and professional life. Now, a few businesses, a book, and a podcast later, Eric shares all he has learned over the years to help others game the system. Reframing Negativity to Feed the Fire One game Eric has taken many life lessons from is poker. The key trait it has taught him is resilience. Playing through college, Eric experienced month-long spells of good luck, but also desperate losing streaks that threatened his college funds, teaching him the importance of perseverance. Eric discusses how these highs and lows forged his ability to press on. He talks about his method of using negative energy to fuel his determination and how the amount of struggle you're able to endure is commensurate with you and your business's ability to grow. Playing the Long Game When you're building a business, you need long-term goals that you can work towards. Being short-sighted and only focusing on the immediate future might solve a few small problems, but you'll be neglecting the longer-term factors that could have a much more substantial positive impact on your clients. Eric tells us why you need to focus on your big-picture strategies rather than your quick-fix tactics to offer real value. He also explains why chasing after the small wins will only move you further away from your goals and why your time is better spent focusing on perfecting what you do best, rather than jumping into scaling up. Key takeaways: You don't need to stay in single-player mode. You'll achieve more and have a bigger impact if you work with a team. Hold on to your apprentice mentality. Don't get stuck in your ideas or ways of doing things, and be open to change and new methods. Don't worry about being original. Instead, reinvent and innovate. Eventually, you'll come up with an iteration that is original. Links and Resources The Game Changing Attorney Podcast Michael Mogill Facebook Michael Mogill Twitter Michael Mogill Instagram Michael Mogill LinkedIn Crisp Video Website Crisp Video Facebook Crisp Video Group Twitter Crisp Video Instagram Crisp Video LinkedIn Eric Siu LinkedIn Eric Siu Twitter

Transcript

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You don't deserve to go to the next level until you beat the current one. And that's just life. That's Eric Sue, investor, founder, advisor, and author of leveling up. There's a circle in there. And success is on all the edges of the circle. You start in the middle of it. If you're just going one direction, you're going to hit success faster. You're going to reach one of the edges. But if you keep changing directions, it's much harder to get to one of the

0:24.1

edges to reach, quote-unquote, success. I'm Michael Mogul, founder and CEO of Crisp Video, the nation's

0:32.6

number one law firm growth company. I've built my business through practice, not theory.

0:37.4

Crisp started with just

0:38.1

$500 to my name and has grown to over eight figures in revenue over the last few years,

0:42.6

earning a spot on the Inc 500 list of the fastest growing private companies in America. Our approach

0:47.4

has been to take everything we've learned about generating massive growth within our own organization

0:51.2

and help the country's most ambitious and committed law firm owners do the same for theirs. In each episode of this podcast, I sit down with

0:58.2

innovative market leaders from the legal industry and beyond to learn from those who thrive in

1:02.6

the face of adversity, challenge the status quo, and define what it means to be a true

1:06.4

game changer. I sat down with Eric Sue to discuss how he's reframed pain into opportunities to

1:12.4

ride the rough winds and persevere, how he ditched ego and embraced an apprentice mentality,

1:17.2

and how he's applied the lessons he's learned as a professional gamer to scale multiple

1:21.3

successful businesses. I spent a lot of time in my life gaming, and I've intersected that

1:26.0

with marketing, which I think is a game,

1:27.6

and also business, which I think is the ultimate game. That's coming up on the Game Changing

1:31.4

Attorney Podcast. Eric Sue is the CEO of Single Grain and has worked with companies such as

1:42.2

Amazon, Uber, and Salesforce to help them

1:44.4

acquire more customers. He's also the host of two top-rated podcasts that accrue millions

1:48.7

of downloads every month and has compiled the lessons he's learned into his latest book,

1:53.3

leveling up how to master the game of life. But before becoming a major force in the business

1:58.0

world, Eric got his start as a competitive e-sports gamer.

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