Hey everyone, welcome to the Natasha Crane podcast.

In today's episode, I have the distinct joy of interviewing my friend and one of my favorite

people in the world, Melissa Doherty, about her new groundbreaking book, Happy Lies, how a movement you probably never heard of

shaped our self-obsessed world. If you're not familiar with Melissa, she's a Christian

apologist best known for her YouTube channel, which has over 330,000 subscribers. It's tough to write a book

about a movement most people haven't heard of and yet has so significantly

shaped the thinking of our society because people don't know they need the information.

As I said in my endorsement of the book, quote, happy lies is the most important book that

Christians don't know they need. Melissa connects dots that give readers a wealth of aha moments

and provides invaluable insights

that bring clarity to some of the most pervasive errors in the church. As a bonus, she does it

all in her writing style that makes it fun and engaging to read. End quote. So today we're going to

dig into a topic you probably didn't know you need to know about, and you're going to see it explains

so much. I personally learn a lot from Melissa know about, and you're going to see it explains so much.

I personally learn a lot from Melissa's book, and I encourage everyone listening to get a copy.

Also, fun fact, Melissa was writing Happy Lies while I was writing my newest book when culture hates

you, and so we decided it would be fun to challenge each other to somehow incorporate

the mention of a particular vegetable

somewhere in our books. Now, I'm not going to tell you which vegetable so that if you would

like to take up the challenge, you can do so. So as you read happy lies, and as you read when

culture hates you, be on the lookout for how we each mentioned a vegetable. Needless to say,

Melissa and I share a quirky sense of humor. All right, well,

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