Welcome to the Commune podcast. My name is Jeff Krasno. Today on the show, I welcome my dear friend, Chip Conley.

Chip really is one of my most influential mentors and has been for decades.

And somehow he performs this role for so many people.

I'm not sure quite how he doesn't.

But I cannot tell you how many folks over the years have said to me, Jeff, you really, really

need to meet this guy, Chip Connolly.

Anyways, he's just a magnificent fellow.

He is also a New York Times bestselling author and founder of the Modern Elder Academy,

a school for people in midlife dedicated to helping them understand the upside of this often

misconstrued and misunderstood life stage that Chip calls

midlife chrysalis. I love that. As Chip says, we marvel at the tallest trees in an old

growth forest, but we don't tend to put the words old and growth in the same sentence when we

talk about human beings.

But we can and we should be both aging and growing at the same time.

So today our conversation explores the concept of the modern elder, someone who is as curious as they are wise, who is looking to be relevant instead of revered.

Someone who combines the accumulated wisdom of a lifetime, passes it down to younger generations while simultaneously wanting to learn from

them in the process.

In our discussion, we touch on the idea of humility and the importance of embracing discomfort

and confusion when learning something new, even as one gets older. Now, curiosity is not limited

to childhood and can be a really valuable mindset throughout one's life. Okay, before we dive in,

if you want to learn from Chip Conley on how to age and grow at the same time, check out his

fantastic Commune course, one of my favorites titled Thriving Through Midlife and Beyond.

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