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The BEMA Podcast

486: Vice & Virtue — Temperance

The BEMA Podcast

BEMA Discipleship

Hermeneutics, Religion & Spirituality, Scripture, Jewish Context, Biblical, Judaism, Bible, Christianity

4.83.8K Ratings

🗓️ 20 November 2025

⏱️ 48 minutes

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0:00.0

This is the Baymaw podcast with Marty Solomon.

0:08.6

I'm his co-host, Brent, Brent, and L. Grover Fricks to talk about temperance.

0:14.9

In 1996, David Foster Wallace published an essay, a mammoth, really long essay about going on a cruise.

0:25.2

Have either of you ever been on a cruise?

0:26.9

Yes.

0:27.6

Once.

0:28.7

I would not recommend the cruise that I was on.

0:30.7

I was so upset at the spiritual state of the cruisers that I memorized Romans 8.

0:36.2

Furiously.

0:37.5

I was a teenager.

0:39.2

Did you memorize it on the cruise?

0:41.2

Yes.

0:41.9

Wow.

0:42.7

Well, there's that insufferability again.

0:45.0

There it is.

0:46.2

Which I can point out because I'm sure that would also have been me if I had gone on a cruise,

0:51.6

but I never went on one.

0:52.6

But anyway, actually, given that,

0:59.6

I would love to get your thoughts on this essay sometime. But I'm going to read a longish paragraph.

1:03.9

He's been writing just about the details of all the pampering and all of the excessive everything. And this is not to hate on anybody who has gone on cruises, who enjoys cruises.

1:09.9

This is just for your consideration. And he

1:11.5

writes, we're maybe now in a position to appreciate the falsehood at the dark heart of the luxury

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