Hello and welcome to best case, worst case.

This is Jim Clementi, retired FBI profiler, former New York City's prosecutor and writer-producer

of criminal minds and Bluebeard on Audible.

Now, Maureen couldn't make it today, but we have a very special guest who's interviewed me

dozens of times. And that is

Alison Hope Winer. Tell us a little bit who you are. Well, I am a television producer for

News Nation. I'm a journalist and I'm an author. I have worked in true crime, investigating crime for about 25 years. I'm an author. I have worked in true crime investigating crime for about 25 years. I'm

sticking at 25 years. And I have a new book that is coming out called Murder in the Media,

behind the scenes of four high profile murders. And that's kind of why I wanted to join you.

I wanted to talk a little bit about how different, how much goes on

behind the scenes that we don't write about, that we don't put on TV. We've known each other for a very

long time. I mean, we're only in our 40s, so it can't be that long. So, but anyway, the point is

that there are so many things that happen and you hear about and you,

you know, you want to report, but either you don't have a second source or you're trying to

help the investigation by not revealing things that you find out.

Well, you have to be really careful about that because I used to be an attorney as well.

And I also think as a journalist that our obligation is not to impede the investigation to the extent that we can stay out of the way,

unless there's some sort of malfeasance going on or somebody's up to no good in terms of the investigation that we find out about.

But generally, if you're looking for that at the

very beginning, you're not focusing on the role, the helpful and good role that media can play,

especially, say, like in a missing person's case. Right. Exactly. And we saw that very recently in the

Nancy Guthrie abduction.

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