Hello and welcome to best case, worst case.

I'm Maureen O'Connell, your host, a 25-year veteran of the FBI and a 20-year veteran of the FBI's

evidence response team. And with me today is...

I'm Jim Clementi, retired FBI profiler, former New York City prosecutor, writer-producer

of criminal minds, and Bluebeard on Audubour. That might be the slowest you've ever said it.

So thank you for that. Well, I could... I'm a little bit under the weather, so.

Yep.

Yeah.

Hope you feel better soon.

Thanks.

So today we're going to talk a little bit about the Rex Hewerman case.

And the focus, if it's okay with you, Jim, at least initially, would be to talk about the profile that you put together in,

I believe it was 2011 or something?

2011, yeah, it was.

And it was basically the New York Times reached out to me and asked me if I could put together

a profile based on what we knew at the time.

What we knew was they were up to 10 bodies discovered in the same area on the south shore of Long Island.

And it's the, as they found out more and more information, it turned out that the murders were very seasonal, mainly during the summer months.

And that at least one or more of the bodies was bound in a way that showed me he had multiple

belts or some other types of ligatures on at least one of the bodies and that he wrapped some of the bodies in barlap, which is very unusual.

And then, you know, he was very meticulous, and he went back to the same place ten times.

Most, I think almost all of his victims were very petite.

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