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the bossbabe podcast

484: The Real Reasons Successful Women Struggle with Intimacy with Sex Therapists Vanessa & Xander

the bossbabe podcast

Natalie Ellis

Entrepreneurship, Education, Marketing, Self-improvement, Business

4.92.6K Ratings

🗓️ 25 September 2025

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

For so many high-achieving women, intimacy becomes the one area of life that feels stuck, overwhelming, or even like another thing on the to-do list. In this episode, we’re diving into why with licensed sex therapist Vanessa Marin (featured in The New York Times, Oprah, and more) and her husband and co-host Xander Marin. Together, they break down the hidden pressures, perfectionism, and cultural myths that block successful women from experiencing the intimacy they actually want. From navigating the mental load and shifting gender roles to rebuilding desire after dry spells or postpartum, this conversation is equal parts practical and refreshing. Vanessa and Xander share simple tools you can start using right away, like transition rituals, the “Get Intimate” method, and reframing foreplay - so intimacy feels less like work and more like connection. Whether you’re in a season of burnout, carrying the breadwinner role, or just craving more closeness, this episode will help you feel seen and give you realistic steps to reignite your relationship. TIMESTAMPS 00:00 - Why successful women struggle with intimacy more than you think 02:45 - The hidden role of perfectionism and pressure in the bedroom 06:30 - Transition rituals that shift you out of “go mode” into connection 11:55 - How changing gender roles and breadwinner dynamics impact intimacy 19:40 - Mental load, resentment, and why it kills desire 28:15 - The “Get Intimate” method: gratitude, eye contact, and touch 33:50 - Why desire is overrated + what to focus on instead 38:35 - Rethinking foreplay: starting long before the bedroom 49:10 - Breaking dry spells and postpartum “sexual inertia” 55:25 - Is there a ‘normal’ frequency couples should be having sex? 01:01:10 - Practical tools for better quality, more connected intimacy RESOURCES + LINKS Explore Vanessa And Xander’s Membership Deeper → Get 3 Months For Just $97 With This Link. Join The Société: Build Your Freedom-Based Business™ With Systems, Templates, Coaching + Community. Just $97/Month. Imagine Having Natalie As Your CMO, On Call 24/7 To Help You Make The Right Moves In Your Business. That’s Exactly What You Get With Bossbabe AI The Freedom Engine™: AI-Powered Strategy And Systems That Show You What To Sell, How To Sell It, And How To Scale - Without All The Guesswork. Learn More And Unlock It Here. Sign Up For Our Free Weekly Newsletter & Get Insights From Natalie Every Single Week On All Things Strategy, Motherhood, Business Growth + More.  Drop Us A Review On The Podcast + Send Us A Screenshot & We’ll Send You Natalie’s 7-Figure Operating System Completely FREE (value $1,997).

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0:00.0

Welcome back to the Boss Baby podcast. So today's episode is one. I've been so excited to bring you and it's a little bit different from what we normally do. I sat down with Vanessa and Zanda Marin, a couple who somehow managed to make talking about sex feels so normal, hilarious and doable. Vanessa is a licensed sex therapist who's been featured everywhere from the New York Times to Oprah and

0:22.4

Xander brings the real life husband perspective that makes every conversation with them just

0:27.1

feel really grounded and honest and so we center this whole conversation around high-performing

0:32.6

women so the women who are leading businesses carrying a million million responsibilities, and then wondering why intimacy

0:39.1

feels like another thing on the to-do list. Vanessa and Zander were really amazing at breaking

0:44.3

down the pressure, the perfectionism and the myths that can really get in the way of genuine

0:49.4

connection. It is not just a fluffy relationship chat. It is real, it's raw, and we take a look at what it looks like to nurture intimacy when

0:58.4

you're really ambitious, when you're driven and when you've got a lot on your plate.

1:02.0

So my hope is that you walk away feeling seen, you laugh a bit, and then you've got a few

1:06.5

simple tactics that could change everything for you.

1:11.5

Hi, welcome to the podcast.

1:12.9

I'm so excited for this conversation.

1:14.8

Thanks so much for having us.

1:16.1

We're super excited to be here.

1:17.6

I want to dive in at the deep end and talk about what you see really inhibits successful women in relationship, getting what they want sexually. I feel like it's such

1:30.0

a specific demographic of women who are out there really crushing it in their career, juggling so

1:36.4

many things, holding so many things. You know, they're like 10 out of 10 in every area, but then

1:41.7

when it comes to their sex life or intimacy in their marriage, it seems to be the

1:46.5

thing that's always on the backbone are the one thing they just can't achieve at.

1:50.9

And so I'm curious, is this something you see a lot?

1:54.5

And what are the common things you think women in that situation struggle with?

1:58.9

That's a huge part of our audience as well. When I first got

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