Okay, so we're going to dive into whether or not we're doing classical conversations this upcoming year again.

It's funny, though, because all morning we were talking about, you know, the war over in the Middle East.

You're talking about like the liberation of Saudi women.

We were talking about like the past, the present, all kinds of things.

And then Alicia goes, why don't you talk about classical conversations on the podcast?

Yeah, I mean, I do think.

That's the opinion I'm going to share with you today.

Yeah, that I do still need to be the, um, our better judgment, Katie.

I need to show.

We were talking about, like, what?

Capitalism, socialism, like so many different topics came up.

And then I kind of had a letdown when he was like,

why don't you tell people what you think about classical conversation?

Here's the deal.

Katie did speech and debate when she was younger.

And I think your personality already is one that's,

what would you say? Kind of like you like combative, like, you know, jousting, verbal jousting and stuff

like that. Yeah, I like a good discussion. Debate and stuff like that. And then when we were first married,

I, we were just talking about

this. You would come out so aggressive with different opinions and I would just sit back and be

like, you've got nothing like to prove this or you've got no facts on your side. This is

100% emotion. And there was some skill as well because you had developed some debating

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