I'm Alice and I'm Brett and this is the prosecutor's legal proof.

And this is the prosecutor's legal proof. And then. Oh, Hello everybody and welcome to this episode of the prosecutor's legal briefs.

I'm Brett and I'm joined today by a real life mind hunter Julia Callie formerly of the FBI's

behavioral analysis unit is that correct?

That is correct. Awesome. Retired. Retired.

Yes, retired. Two years retired. So I'm very proud of that.

Congratulations. Thank you. And this, you know, behavioral analysis is a subject that comes up a lot.

Sometimes I may be a little negative about it and Julia is going to put me in my place

and tell me exactly how this works and hopefully you guys will find this interesting because I know behavior

it's like the siren song we all get drawn into it you want to do behavioral analysis

you want to think about sort of the profiles of different types of crimes and different types of criminals and whether or not certain people meet those profiles all that stuff.

Well we have the expert she's going to tell us all about it but before we get started I do want to give Julia an opportunity to introduce herself to everyone here.

So welcome to the show, Julia.

Thank you very much.

I'm excited to be here and to talk to you about my favorite subject, true crime, behavioral analysis, forensic science, any of that. But yeah, my name is Julia Cowley. I am a retired FBI agent and profiler. I've been retired for about two years now and I spent 22 years in the

FBI as an FBI agent and then I became a profiler. But prior to that I was a forensic scientist with the Tennessee Bureau of

Investigation. So I went out to crime scenes, processed homicide scenes, and I

think that was my strength in profiling and so we'll get into this and we'll get into behavioral analysis and what what we perceive is kind of you know some people think it's the be all end all. I know you don't and I agree with you because I am a scientist.

How did you make the jump from the TV eye to the FBI?

I always kind of knew that I wanted to be in the FBI, but I think it was after reading John

Douglas's book, The Mind Hunter, that I have three books in my life that dictated the course of my entire life.

The first one was Helter Skeelter by Vincent Bulleosy and it's the Manson murders.

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