Hello and welcome to Best Case, Worst Case.

This is Jim Clementi, retired FBI profiler, former New York City Prosecutor and writer-producer

of Criminal Minds.

And with me today is the lovely...

Maureen O'Connell, 25-year veteran of the FBI and proud co-host of Best Case Worse Case.

And also, crime scene expert, right?

Absolutely.

A terrible skill, but trying to keep it up.

Yeah.

And this has been a very interesting week and a half and, you know, sad and grim and, you know, tough, but very interesting.

There's been a lot of developments in the last couple of days, which is why we decided to jump on and cover this.

So I know, Maureen, you've been on dozens of shows, and I have two, and we've been trying

to get information out there.

What do you think is the most important thing to talk about first?

Well, from an umbrella standpoint, this is a case for the ages. This will not be a case that falls

away from the public eye for a very long time, decades, I'm afraid. Because so many things seem

disjointed. There are things, it's almost like one of these things doesn't belong with the other.

And we're not sure which one and why.

It's, there's, I cannot recall a case where I've been so unsure about so many things.

Yeah, there's a lot of alternative theories and there's a lot of things going

around. I mean, let's start, for example. I mean, the most, you talk umbrella. What is the

motivation for this crime? Is it kidnapping? Which would then, of course, be money would be the

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