meta_pixel
Tapesearch Logo
Log in
The SelfWork Podcast

476 SelfWork: Is There A Right Way to Grieve?

The SelfWork Podcast

Margaret Robinson Rutherford PhD

Education, Health & Fitness, Mental Health, Self-improvement

4.81.3K Ratings

🗓️ 12 December 2025

⏱️ 23 minutes

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

Grief is never easy. And it can be made harder by the many things that happen with grief that you’re not prepared for – or believe ‘should’ be happening or ‘shouldn’t’. Dr. Elizabeth Kübler Ross made the observation about terminally ill people that they seemed to go through five stages of grief: denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance. But she never meant for that model, no matter how interactive or nonlinear we may think about it – to become what it’s become – some kind of standard yardstick where you’re supposed to measure if you’re grieving the ‘right’ way. Our Sponsors: * Check out BetterHelp and use my code betterhelp.com for a great deal: https://www.betterhelp.com Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

Transcript

Click on a timestamp to play from that location

0:00.0

This is Self-Work, and I'm Dr. Margaret Rutherford.

0:10.3

At Self-Work, we discuss psychological and emotional issues and what you can do about them,

0:15.6

whether that's learning self-acceptance, taking action, or seeking therapy or treatment.

0:21.3

Eight years ago, I extended the walls of my practice to reach those of you who might already be

0:26.1

knowledgeable about middle health treatment, but also to those of you who might say you'd never

0:31.2

darken the door of a therapist. And yet, you are here. I'll answer your questions while I invite

0:37.0

you to take a few minutes for your

0:39.1

own self-work. And yet one of the ironies and what I want to address in today's self-work

0:45.9

is that the model we've had taught to us in a very this is how you should be grieving kind of way

0:52.2

was initially meant or designed to describe the

0:55.5

stages of grief for the person who is terminally ill or dying themselves.

1:00.2

It's Elizabeth Kubler-Ross's five stages of grief.

1:04.1

Welcome to this week's edition of Self-Work.

1:09.0

Grief is never easy, and it can be made harder by the many things that happen with grief

1:13.7

that you're not prepared for, or believe should be happening and things that shouldn't be

1:19.2

happening.

1:20.3

Dr. Elizabeth Kubler-Ross made the observation about terminally ill people that they seem to go

1:25.7

through five stages of grief, denial, anger,

1:29.2

bargaining, depression, and acceptance. But she never meant for that model, no matter how

1:34.7

interactive or nonlinear we may think about it, to become what it's become some kind of standard

1:40.0

yardstick where you're supposed to measure if you're grieving the right way. There's not a right

1:45.9

way. And it's been my professional and personal experience that grief has a way of weaving in

...

Please login to see the full transcript.

Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Margaret Robinson Rutherford PhD, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.

Generated transcripts are the property of Margaret Robinson Rutherford PhD and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.

Copyright © Tapesearch 2026.