Demis Hassabis is the CEO of Google DeepMind and Nobel Prize winner for his groundbreaking work in protein structure prediction using AI.
Thank you for listening ❤ Check out our sponsors: https://lexfridman.com/sponsors/ep475-sc
See below for timestamps, transcript, and to give feedback, submit questions, contact Lex, etc.

Transcript:
https://lexfridman.com/demis-hassabis-2-transcript

CONTACT LEX:
Feedback - give feedback to Lex: https://lexfridman.com/survey
AMA - submit questions, videos or call-in: https://lexfridman.com/ama
Hiring - join our team: https://lexfridman.com/hiring
Other - other ways to get in touch: https://lexfridman.com/contact

EPISODE LINKS:
Demis's X: https://x.com/demishassabis
DeepMind's X: https://x.com/GoogleDeepMind
DeepMind's Instagram: https://instagram.com/GoogleDeepMind
DeepMind's Website: https://deepmind.google/
Gemini's Website: https://gemini.google.com/
Isomorphic Labs: https://isomorphiclabs.com/
The MANIAC (book): https://amzn.to/4lOXJ81
Life Ascending (book): https://amzn.to/3AhUP7z

SPONSORS:
To support this podcast, check out our sponsors & get discounts:
Hampton: Community for high-growth founders and CEOs.
Go to https://joinhampton.com/lex
Fin: AI agent for customer service.
Go to https://fin.ai/lex
Shopify: Sell stuff online.
Go to https://shopify.com/lex
LMNT: Zero-sugar electrolyte drink mix.
Go to https://drinkLMNT.com/lex
AG1: All-in-one daily nutrition drink.
Go to https://drinkag1.com/lex

OUTLINE:
(00:00) - Introduction
(00:29) - Sponsors, Comments, and Reflections
(08:40) - Learnable patterns in nature
(12:22) - Computation and P vs NP
(21:00) - Veo 3 and understanding reality
(25:24) - Video games
(37:26) - AlphaEvolve
(43:27) - AI research
(47:51) - Simulating a biological organism
(52:34) - Origin of life
(58:49) - Path to AGI
(1:09:35) - Scaling laws
(1:12:51) - Compute
(1:15:38) - Future of energy
(1:19:34) - Human nature
(1:24:28) - Google and the race to AGI
(1:42:27) - Competition and AI talent
(1:49:01) - Future of programming
(1:55:27) - John von Neumann
(2:04:41) - p(doom)
(2:09:24) - Humanity
(2:12:30) - Consciousness and quantum computation
(2:18:40) - David Foster Wallace
(2:25:54) - Education and research

PODCAST LINKS:
- Podcast Website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast
- Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr
- Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8
- RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/
- Podcast Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrAXtmErZgOdP_8GztsuKi9nrraNbKKp4
- Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/lexclips