What do you say, Will Swame? Are you up for an ad hoc public service announcement that just might change and save America?

And change the trajectory of the entire planet. Yes, sir. Let's do it.

Folks, I've invited Will Swame on because I don't know of anybody who understands what's going on in California better on a policy level than you.

Maybe your old boss, Ed Ring, he seems to be still plugged in.

But as a resident here, I just feel like something is tipped, and I have no desire to open a big political can of worms.

But I do think it's really important, in part because I just watched a video from Farid Zakaria, who talked, you know, and not a Republican, not even a conservative, but he spoke very plainly

about what's happening in New York City. And I just was taken by it because all the way out

here in California, it struck me as a kind of public service announcement announcement because our cities are in trouble, Will.

And the trouble our cities are in

sure seems to be a direct result of the policies

that have been put in place.

So I don't just want to make it a big dog pile.

I don't have any personal animus toward Gavin Newsom, but at every front, at every

angle, I see something that just feels more and more worrisome with every passing day

about the present and the future of California. So to the extent you're comfortable doing it, I just, A, I want to make sure I'm not

hallucinating and B, B, for the rest of the country, can you, by way of example, talk about how this

state got to where it is and what the consequences might be for the rest of

the country if we adopt and adapt the policies that got us here.

Yeah, absolutely. I think I can't help you on the problem of your hallucinations,

but I can tell you that what we're seeing here and what Gavin Newsom represents, I think,

unfortunately, for the rest of the

country is the impact of bad governance on a really wealthy state. You know, Gavin Newsom loves to

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