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Tangentially Speaking with Christopher Ryan

471 - Tracy Clark-Flory (Author of "Want Me")

Tangentially Speaking with Christopher Ryan

Chris Ryan

Society & Culture, Arts

4.82.3K Ratings

🗓️ 21 April 2021

⏱️ 96 minutes

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Summary

"Tracy Clark-Flory grew up wedged between fizzy declarations of “girl power” and the sexualized mandates of pop culture. It was “broken glass ceilings” and Girls Gone Wild infomercials. With a vague aim toward sexual empowerment, she set out to become what men wanted—or, at least, understand it." Tracy's book, Want Me: A Sex Writer's Journey Into the Heart of Desire, is intimate, courageous, vulnerable, and beautifully written. Follow Tracy on Twitter.

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Intro music: “Brightside of the Sun,” by Basin and Range; "Dancing in the Moonlight," by King Harvest; "Smoke Alarm," by Carsie Blanton.



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0:00.0

Radio mano, papà c'ango

0:31.0

Hey Chris, Ben here

0:34.8

Do you hear all that?

0:37.0

If you can, it's the sound of the Amazon jungle at night

0:42.2

I'm sitting out here looking over in this small pond

0:47.0

There are water lilies blooming on it just like they do every night white against the darkness

0:52.5

I'm here at the Siowasca Center in the jungle

0:58.1

I've been here for almost six weeks now and tomorrow will be my final ceremony of

1:06.4

17

1:08.4

I've been listening to you since before you had an actual podcast. It was actually your first

1:15.2

podcast where you came on the trussles where I found you

1:17.9

But since then I've been with you in Oregon and Chiang Mai in Dapanga and Holland and of course in the van and

1:26.7

You've been with me in Prague

1:29.0

and in Buenos Aires

1:31.0

on trains and style-calls and trails in Washington state and buses across Paraguay

1:36.8

And on my flight here

1:38.8

I'm super grateful to have you and all of the tangentially speaking community with me on my various journeys

1:46.5

But until now I've always been afraid to send you an intro. I was always afraid you'd

1:52.6

Recognize my name or my voice because four years ago

1:56.0

You generously agreed to let me interview you for this article that I was writing about psychedelic medicine and podcasts and

2:02.0

At that point I'd barely written any articles or had any published that were all music journalism

2:07.8

And even though I got great interviews from you and Duncan and Danielle E. Bolloli and others

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