#471 – Sundar Pichai: CEO of Google and Alphabet
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🗓️ 5 June 2025
⏱️ 138 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | The following is a conversation with Sundar Pichai, the CEO of Google and Alphabet. |
| 0:07.2 | And now, a quick few second mention of his sponsor, check them out in the description or at |
| 0:12.1 | Lexfremontcom slash sponsors. |
| 0:15.4 | It's the best way to support this podcast. |
| 0:17.1 | We got Tax Network USA for taxes, BetterHelp for mental health, element for |
| 0:24.3 | electrolytes, Shopify for selling stuff online, and age you one for your daily multivitamin |
| 0:30.1 | drink. Choose wisely, my friends. And now onto the falloutaries, you can skip them if you like, |
| 0:34.9 | but if you do, please still check out our sponsors. I enjoy their stuff. Maybe you will too. If you want to get in touch with me for whatever reason, go to |
| 0:41.5 | Lexrema.com slash contact. All right, let's go. This episode is brought to you by Tax Network USA, |
| 0:48.6 | a full service tax firm, focused on solving tax problems for individuals and for small businesses. I remember |
| 0:57.0 | when I was preparing for the Roman Empire episode, I came across a lot of places where there was |
| 1:02.8 | a rigorous discussion about the intricate tax collection algorithms used by the Roman Empire. |
| 1:13.7 | The reason I use the word algorithms is basically there's a systematic process |
| 1:18.6 | for determining how much you owe based on your location, |
| 1:23.0 | based on your status, based on your job, |
| 1:24.7 | based on all these kinds of factors. |
| 1:27.1 | It's sad, but those rules in the early days initially give power to the individual because |
| 1:33.8 | they protect the individual. |
| 1:35.7 | But when they become too complicated, then the bureaucracy, the centralized power, starts |
| 1:41.2 | to abuse its power by using the rules. |
| 1:45.9 | And then the individual loses power because they can't figure out the complexity of the rules. |
| 1:52.1 | And that's essentially why you need the CPAs and the firms to figure out the complexity. |
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