Coming up on the ultimate health podcast. I think that when there's a theme to our emotions when there's a theme to our anxiety.

We really want to pay attention to it and that's really tough in modern life because modern life is constantly dazzling and distracting us and saying.

Why would you be with your emotion when you can watch the next thing that pops up on youtube or you can keep scrolling instagram or tiktok and I think it requires a lot of very proactive.

And we need to to choose to stay with our sharing anxiety and to stay curious about it and willing to sit in the middle of the storm until we really understand what it's asking of us.

Hello and welcome to the ultimate health podcast episode 471. I'm Jesse Chapis and I'm here to take your help to the next level.

Each week I'll bring you in-depth conversations with health and wellness leaders from around the world. This week I'm chatting with Dr. Ellen Vora.

Ellen is a holistic psychiatrist, acupuncturist, yoga teacher and author of the anatomy of anxiety. She takes the functional medicine approach to mental health, considering the whole person and addressing and balance at the route.

I really appreciate Ellen's unique approach when helping people dealing with anxiety plus other mental health challenges.

If you're suffering mentally, this conversation is going to give you new ways of working through your challenge.

Highlights include the root causes of anxiety, false anxiety versus true anxiety, the role inflammation plays in chronic mental health issues,

is your birth control pill causing anxiety and psychedelics as a tool for mental health challenges.

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It's going to help them along their health journey and help the show continue to grow and reach and help more people.

Thank you so much. Without further ado, here we go with Dr. Ellen Vora.

So you have this really unique approach to looking at anxiety. It's not the actual problem, but it's like a compass we can use.

To detect where the problem actually lies, which is a really different way of looking at anxiety. So I'd love for you to extrapolate on that and talk about what you mean by that specifically.

Yeah, so the way I put it in the book is that anxiety is not the final answer. It's the beginning of our inquiry.

And I think it's actually a pretty profound departure from how I was trained to think about diagnosis.

If you think about conventional, alopathic, western medicine, our crowning achievement was antibiotics.

Like we're forever trying to get back to those glory days where we were actually really potent and we could see a problem and we could say, okay, it's this bug.

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