Well, you're speaking right now to be last black colonists at the Washington Post right now, given...

That is, that is, wow, that is unacceptable.

Yeah, I will say in the opinion section specifically there is someone in the news, but opinion writer.

This is Justice by Design, and I'm Kimberly Atkins Store. For those watching this on video,

you will see I'm not in my normal work room. I am actually on the beautiful coast of Oak Bluffs,

Massachusetts, where I will be participating in a panel

discussion hosted by the Alumni Association of my alma mater, Boston University, where I went to law

school and grad school, to talk about how college campuses can create and protect safe spaces for students to be able to engage in one another,

including on tough topics without fear of retribution or being punished in some way for engaging in that

because that's such an important part of education. And I'm super happy and honored and excited to be a part

of that conversation. And listen, synergy is real because it also happens that today for Justice

by Design, my guest is one of the trailblazers when it comes to creating those spaces

and not letting obstacles stand in her way.

I am honored to be joined today by Karen Atiyah, who is the founder of Resistance Summer School.

Hi, Karen.

Hey, Cam. Thanks for having me.

Of course, so good to see you.

So, as always, I ask my guest to give a very brief introduction of themselves so that the listeners can know what you do with the resistance summer school and elsewhere. You have many irons and many fires. And then we can get started. So tell us a little bit about yourself, Karen.

Sure, sure. Yes. Many irons and

many fires feels like both on a sort of personal business side, but then also a political

side. There are many fires. Yes. So yes. Yeah, so my more or less day job is I'm a

journalist. I've been with the Washington Post for the last almost 11 years, about 11 years.

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