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Hello there. Thank you very much for downloading this episode of Ellis and John,

and you are about to hear a tremendously professional performance because I am very tired,

but I'm going to pretend I'm not. Do you want to hear evidence of how tired I am?

Go on then. I just phoned Izzy in a tis. She was out. I said, you've got to go home. I've left the keys in the front door. I checked. They were in my blibby pocket. Dear, dear, dear, dear, dear, dear. What a handbrained turn of a phone call. Why was that not the first place you look? Because they weren't there. They were in the different pockets of the one I usually use. So I just panicked. I'm tired, Dave? Yeah, Michael asked Ellis to look at something on a piece of paper. And we thought Ellis was deep in concentration, really, you know, analysing what was on the script until he went, sorry, I've not even been stepping a piece of paper for 90 seconds. Forgotten to read. And then Izzy works for the show asked me something. And I said, Bith, which is Welsh for what? Because when I'm very tired, I go to, I default to Welsh first. Izzy doesn't work on the show anymore, Ellis. No, but she was in the room 20 minutes ago. I told Izzy, when I came in with this authorised personnel only, she is no longer authorized. Yeah, and she did say, I'm hashtag not a filled, which is the youngest phrase I've ever heard. She said to me, what's the tea, sitch? No, what's the tea something? As in the tea, cup of tea. Spill the T is, yes, yes, yes. But it was the, she said, what's the T S or something? What's she asking you? Would you like a cup of tea? Or can I have a cup of tea? No, like what's new? So we're, what do you mean by tea? We've been through this, Ellis.

No, we haven't.

Sorry, I'm very tired, I can't remember. Spill the tea. But it's beans. Ellis is tired. You spilled beans, not tea. Tea is the new beans. Is it? Yeah, big time. No one's beaning it anymore, mate. What, you put a load of tea bags on a fry up. Tea? The musical drink, the more you eat, the more you stink.

Yes, so there's a new song for it as well. you put a load of tea bags on a fryup. Tea, the musical drink, the more you eat, the more you stink.

Yes, so there's a new song for it as well.

I don't believe that for a second.

That's just not true.

The reason Ellis is tired is because he has bad sleep hygiene,

even though he's very concerned about sleep,

don't you, Ellis?

Yeah, thanks not having to go at me.

It's two minutes and 57.

Before going to bed, Ellis will get on a train and have 100 selfies,

which is not recommended to do just before you're trying to get to sleep.

They were very nice people,

although I did talk to Charlie for too long about rugby league,

and he said, sorry, mate, I've got to do some work.

I saw that picture.

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