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The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Michael Mogill

468. AMMA — Why Dark Energy Becomes Dead Weight Over Time

The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Michael Mogill

Michael Mogill

Marketing, Entrepreneurship, Business, Management

5.0539 Ratings

🗓️ 4 June 2026

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

The anger that fuels growth can become the thing that slows it down. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill answer three listener questions that reveal a pattern hiding beneath the surface of almost every high-achieving firm owner: the chip on the shoulder that fueled the climb is still there, long after the summit. From dark energy and manufactured adversity to betrayal, forgiveness, and the stories we carry from past partnerships, this episode unpacks how to evolve your fuel source without losing your edge. Here’s what you’ll learn: Why the dark energy that drives early success has a shelf life, and how to shift to a fuel source that doesn’t cost you the people around you How to stop carrying past betrayal into your current relationships and reset your default to trust before it’s broken Why rewriting the story of a painful falling out, through forgiveness and gratitude, is the move that actually sets you free You’ve already proven you can build something. This episode is about deciding who you’re going to be while you keep going. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:06:46) Why No Friction Equals Unhappiness (00:08:37) Q1: When Anger Stops Fueling You (00:10:52) Letting Go of Proving Others Wrong (00:13:15) Q2: Carrying Past Betrayal Forward (00:19:25) Forgiveness Is for You, Not Them (00:20:10) Q3: When the Past Still Lingers (00:26:51) Choosing Friction Over Comfort ---- Links & Resources: The Infinite Game by Simon Sinek John Morgan Mike Tyson ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 407. AMMA - Why Playing It Safe Is the Most Dangerous Strategy 381. AMMA - The Hardest Mindset Shift for Law Firm Owners to Make 229. David Goggins - Never Finished: Unshackle Your Mind and Win the War Within

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0:00.0

Sometimes when you climb on the mountain or you reach the top of the mountain, the next mountain to climb is how many people can you take with you?

0:07.0

And that to me becomes a much stronger driving factor because I believe we're more likely to do things for other people sometimes than we are to do things for ourselves.

0:15.0

I'm Michael Mogul, founder and CEO of Crisp, the nation's number one law firm growth company.

0:26.9

I've built my business through practice, not theory.

0:29.7

Crisp started with just $500 to my name and has grown to over eight figures in revenue

0:33.6

over the last few years, earning a spot on the Inc 500 list of the fastest growing private

0:38.1

companies in America. Our approach has been to take everything we've learned about generating

0:42.0

massive growth within our own organization and help the country's most ambitious and committed

0:46.3

in law firm owners do the same for theirs. In each episode of this podcast, I sit down with

0:50.5

innovative market leaders from the legal industry and beyond to learn from those

0:54.4

who thrive in the face of adversity, challenge the status quo, and define what it means to be a true

0:59.3

game changer.

1:00.6

This is Jessica, head of coaching strategy at Crisp, and today we're flipping the script for

1:05.6

another special edition episode to get Michael's take on.

1:09.1

Balancing the hunger for success with the need for emotional

1:11.5

stability and leadership, strategies for preventing past betrayals from dictating the treatment

1:15.9

of new hires, and differentiating between a healthy competitive spirit and the weight of

1:20.4

unresolved professional history. Just because somebody has done you dirty, you can't control

1:24.6

how they're going to live out the rest of their life, but you can control how you live out the rest of your life and how you respond. I don't think there's a single

1:30.1

human being in my life today, not a single person that I harbor any ill will or resentment towards.

1:36.1

That's coming up on the Game Changing Attorney podcast. All right, here we are for an A.M.A.

1:51.0

What a time to be alive.

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