Hello, welcome to the best case, worst case.

This is Jim Clementi, retired FBI profiler, former New York City prosecutor, right,

reducer of criminal minds and bluebeard on Audible.

Who with me today is?

Maureen O'Connell, a 25-year veteran with the FBI and your co-host for today.

We also have our very special guest from last week is back, and he is...

Jason Kohler, a 22-year Special Forces veteran, both first and 10th Special Forces groups.

Awesome. Well, Jason, I know last week you briefly mentioned the first Gulf War. And

I remember that very well because I was actually in the FBI undercover on the commodities exchange

trading crude oil futures. And of course, when the war broke out, that created some serious volatility in the crude oil market and

that was a little bit insane because I was just I literally had never gone to school for any of

this stuff and I actually got a job as a as a clerk and then six months, took the test, became a broker and was in there trading.

And of course, every day, because we were so volatile, you know, CNN was there with cameras.

I was ducking cameras.

And it was all sorts of craziness.

But my friend, my friend Yang was flying refuelers out there. And he would send

me pictures of, you know, fighter jets coming up with, you know, shrapnel holes in the wings and

fin and everything. And he was keeping me up to date on that.

You called it a brief war, but it was pretty crazy, pretty crazy.

And I'm sure that, you know, that was just the beginning for you.

So that's an amazing career you've had.

And thank you so much for everything you did.

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