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Best Case Worst Case

462| An actual American Hero

Best Case Worst Case

X-G Productions

True Crime, Documentary, Society & Culture

4.23.1K Ratings

🗓️ 18 October 2025

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

Maureen and Jim spoke with Jason- A real life special Operations Veteran who has lived with an extraordinary life and career.

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to best case, worst case.

0:10.5

My name is Maureen O'Connell.

0:11.9

I'm your co-host, and I'm a retired 25-year veteran of the FBI.

0:16.8

And with me today is...

0:18.4

Hi, I'm Jim Clemente. Retired FBI Profile of former New York City prosecutor and writer-producer of criminal minds and bluebeard on Audible.

0:26.2

And with us today, we have a very special guest.

0:29.6

It's my dear friend and resident badass.

0:35.4

Jason Kohler. I'm a retired 22-year veteran of the U.S. Army Special Forces, was in both

0:42.7

First Special Forces Group and 10th Special Forces Group. Made a nutshell. That's awesome. Well,

0:49.9

thank you for coming in, Jason. It's great to meet you. Thank you. Thank you for kicking both of our

0:55.5

asses by way of your background. That is very impressive and we love it. And you're looking good,

1:01.6

brother. Good to see you. Good to see you too. And Jim, good to see you again as well.

1:05.6

Thank you. And so how do you and Maury know each other? Well, I'll just say that I was in the FBI and I was supposed to go speak at this event.

1:16.5

And I walk into the event and I look around and Jim Clemente, you're not going to believe this, but I didn't know anybody in the room, which is pretty shocking.

1:24.7

Rare. Yeah.

1:25.2

And so I look around and I thought, where am I going to sit?

1:27.4

I don't want to sit there, not there, not there. And then I saw this handsome young. I knew he was in the military in some way, shape, or form because he was sitting straight up. And you could tell he didn't know anyone. And he was like, I hope this isn't as bad as I think it's going to be. And I just, I said, I'm sitting next to that guy.

1:45.1

So I walk up and I said, is this seat taken?

1:47.3

And he's like, no, I have a seat.

1:49.1

And I said, were you in the military or something along those lines?

1:52.5

And he said, yeah, Green Beret.

1:54.5

And I said, oh, do you happen to know, do you happen to know General Friedovich?

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