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The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

466. Reappropriating Feminism, Maternity, and the Woman’s Role | Mary Harrington

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

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4.634.5K Ratings

🗓️ 25 July 2024

⏱️ 80 minutes

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Summary

Dr. Jordan Peterson sits down with author and columnist Mary Harrington. They discuss how women contributed to civil society before joining the workforce, the fatal flaw of a male-dominated system, the two fundamental reproductive strategies, the commodification of female sexuality, and the utility of radical loyalty and solidarity between partners. Mary Harrington is an editor for UnHerd and the author of “Feminism Against Progress.” Harrington also runs a weekly Substack, “Reactionary Feminist.” - Links - For Mary Harrington: On X https://x.com/moveincircles?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor The Reactionary Feminist (Substack) https://substack.com/@reactionaryfeminist Feminism Against Progress (Book) https://www.amazon.com/Feminism-against-Progress-Mary-Harrington/dp/1684514878

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Hello everybody I had the chance today to talk to Mary Harrington author of Feminism Against Progress which was published in 2023.

0:25.0

Mary's analysis is that the feminist body of thought emerged in the aftermath of the Industrial Revolution when men and women were both

0:35.8

recalibrating their social roles and that it had divided into the feminism of

0:40.9

care which is less classically feminist and the feminism of freedom which is what most people would identify with

0:47.4

feminism now. She we talked also about the transhumanist spin, let's say, on the feminism of freedom,

0:56.8

discussing the invention of the birth control pill

1:00.0

and its radical effects on individuals and society.

1:03.7

Radical and in many ways perverse effects

1:06.0

because the pill was touted as the gateway

1:09.2

to the hedonistic sexual utopian universe

1:12.4

of ultimate equality and gratification of every whim and actually

1:18.0

turned very rapidly into universal abortion at the rate of a million a year in the United States,

1:25.0

the radical destabilization of sexual relations between men and women,

1:30.0

handing women over to their worst whims and also to psychopathic men who are much more likely to

1:36.4

engage in short-term sexual strategies and then the general commodification of female sexuality, let's say on the pornography front,

1:46.2

which occupies about 25% of internet traffic.

1:49.4

Anyways, we weave our way through all of that and so join us.

1:55.0

So Mary you launched your book Feminism Against Progress in spring of 2023.

2:03.0

So let's, why don't you start by walking us through the book and the argument that you were making there?

2:10.0

Okay, well it's, it's a story in three parts I guess. There's a there's a past, a present and a future and really what I set out to do was answer a question which had become clear to me after I myself had a child, which was why is it that

2:28.4

motherhood is such a blind spot, it seems, in the women's movement.

2:33.0

And as I read into that,

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