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The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Michael Mogill

466. AMMA — How To Get More Energy as a Business Owner

The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Michael Mogill

Michael Mogill

Marketing, Entrepreneurship, Business, Management

5.0539 Ratings

🗓️ 28 May 2026

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

Your edge is not how hard you push. It is how fast you recover, reset, and get back on track. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill break down the difference between discipline and rigidity, burnout and misallocated energy, and rest and weakness. From missed workouts and cheat meals to draining team members and recovery as a competitive advantage, this AMMA is a blunt reminder that high performance is not about being perfect. It is about knowing what costs you energy, what restores it, and what you refuse to tolerate. Here’s what you’ll learn: Why getting off track only matters if you cannot get back on track How to identify the work, people, and habits that drain your energy What it takes to make recovery a competitive advantage instead of a guilty pleasure You do not need to be perfect to stay disciplined. You just need the discipline to come back stronger the next day. (00:00:00) Introduction (00:01:42) Discipline vs. Enjoying Life (00:05:05) Why One Bad Day Changes Nothing (00:05:32) Getting Back on Track Matters (00:10:05) Q1: Burnout Without Overwork (00:16:18) Q2: Is Recovery an Advantage? (00:22:02) Q3: High Performers Who Drain You ---- Links & Resources: Atlas Restaurant The Garden Room Michelin Guide ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 461. Mastering Biological Fundamentals for Elite Performance with Dr. Kristen Holmes 430. AMMA - What Separates The Pros From The Rest 420. The Sleep Science That Separates Elite Performers with Dr. Michael Breus

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0:00.0

You can't have the highs without the lows. The reason you feel the highs is because the lows exist.

0:06.0

If you eliminated all the lows altogether, you wouldn't appreciate the highs as well.

0:14.0

I'm Michael Logel, founder and CEO of Crisp, the nation's number one law from growth company.

0:21.6

I've built my business through practice, not theory.

0:24.4

Crisp started with just $500 to my name and has grown to over eight figures in revenue over the last few years,

0:29.7

earning a spot on the Inc. 500 list of the fastest growing private companies in America.

0:34.1

Our approach has been to take everything we've learned about generating massive growth

0:37.5

within our own organization and help the country's most ambitious and committed law firm

0:41.4

owners do the same for theirs. In each episode of this podcast, I sit down with innovative market

0:46.1

leaders from the legal industry and beyond to learn from those who thrive in the face of adversity,

0:50.9

challenge the status quo, and define what it means to be a true game changer.

0:55.3

This is Jessica, head of coaching strategy at Crisp, and today we're flipping the script

1:00.0

for another special edition episode to get Michael's take on, how to identify executive stagnation

1:05.6

when external business metrics are thriving, debunking the myth that constant output is the only

1:10.6

way to maintain an edge,

1:12.2

and what to do when a top performer consistently drains leadership energy.

1:16.5

Why would I want to spend time around somebody that takes energy away from me?

1:20.1

It's like a foreign concept. I can't understand it. I would just be like in the meeting.

1:25.4

That's coming up on the game changing attorney podcast.

1:37.7

All right. Here we are. I think I'm still full from last night, actually. Yes, that was an incredible dinner.

1:45.0

So last night we took a number of our clients out to one of our favorite restaurants.

1:50.0

And, you know, what this is really about, we were just talking about this before we started recording, is that I believe,

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