Hey guys, welcome to episode number 465 of the Industrial Strength Show.

I am not going to waste time with small talk during today's intro because I have a monster show for you guys here this week.

Just so much knowledge, so much experience and almost two hour long conversation that I had with my fellow East Coast guy Mike

Stella who is the owner of the movement underground in Strong Island, New York, which is a gym that really does as good of a job as any at combining and kind of intertwining rehabilitation

and body work with high-level sports performance training and this is because the man

steering the ship over there at the movement underground is as well rounded as

anyone in the industry he is not your typical one-trick pony that that you find in the world of strength and

conditioning or the rehab world. Mike is a phenomenal manual therapist. He's also an expert in evaluating movement and he has a

strength and conditioning background. So just a very unique and well-rounded approach that he has where he's able to look at

clients through various different lenses and when you combine that with over two decades worth of

experience working with pro athletes from I think he's worked with like a pro athletes from a dozen different sports along with average

Joes from all walks of life shapes and sizes you know you get a person with a ton of value to share hence our almost two hour

conversation where we discuss everything from assessments specifically what Mike does when a new

client walks into his gym how he feels about the FMS I think he gives some great advice to young trainers there.

We talk about how to handle imbalances and asymmetries, kind of a continuation from the conversation I had with myself last week on last week show.

We talk about evidence-based trainers and therapists versus real world experience.

Mike has a saying he says research is more of a compass than a map,

which I love that saying, and he explains that on today's show.

We talk about blending physical therapy

with strength and conditioning,

why those two things shouldn't be two completely separate entities.

They should be blended together.

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