Hello there, good listener. I am your host, Nick Stumbo, and you are listening to The Pure Desire

podcast, your biblically based and clinically informed approach to healing from betrayal and breaking

free from all forms of compulsive sexual behavior. And whether today is your first day with us or your

10,000th day of recovery, we hope that you will hear life-giving conversations that maybe you've

never been a part of before. Today is episode 465 and here joining me as my co-host for this brand new

series is the one and only John Beggeman. Mr. John, welcome back to the podcast. And I believe the first podcast you've been on that when it airs, you are a married man. Isn't that crazy? It's also weird in the world of production where I'm like, I don't have a ring. You're not married now. So I can't say like, hey, how's it going? We don't want to fake that. Yeah, but when this is released.

But all of our listeners should reach out and say, way to go, John, because he's now a married man. Yeah, it's been a journey. This episode seemed very fitting whether you're, you know, dating, engaged, or married. Oh, my gosh. Matthew and Joanne, I have so much to offer. I felt like it was a little bit of like pre-marriage counseling for John.

Well, I know.

I'm like, was a little bit of like pre-marriage counseling for John.

I know. I'm like, am I taking notes? Can I fill this out? Can I send this to Haley right now? But just to say, yeah, I just, there's so much good information here about how to do the work together. I loved how we kind of got there in the episode of going, pain is real. What we do with it is really important. And getting to do that work

together is critical to get to the places of vulnerability and intimacy.

Yeah. And it's so universal. So as I mentioned, this is the beginning of a brand new series

that we are calling the porn proof life. So looking at not just how do we do recovery if we're already struggling

with porn, but how do we construct a life that is like shielded against the need for pornography?

And there's some basic principles that we're going to talk about throughout these next five

weeks. And this is definitely the kind of series that you might want to share with a friend,

a family member, a kid, a parent,

because it doesn't require that someone be in recovery to really get a lot out of this episode.

Because the world that we're in, pornography, we live in it, we've said it, we live in a

pornified world, and we all need to understand how do I build a life that is porn proof. And that's really what we're

doing in this first session. It's all about how do we navigate pain well so that we don't need

to escape to things like pornography. It just makes you think, right, digital protection is a piece

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