This is Jocko podcast number 464 with Echo Charles and me,

Jocko Willink. Good evening, Echo.

Good evening.

So we do an event at Escalon Front.

It's called the FTX field training exercise.

And it's a simulated combat event.

And what we do is we take a bunch of people

from a wide variety of backgrounds backgrounds from like the finance world

The energy world just any

Type of business we also will have usually some law enforcement will have some military

But then it'll be salespeople and construction people whatever and we give them some like rudimentally rudimentary

tactical training and then we put them into missions like I said simulated combat

usually in urban combat so there's houses and buildings that need to be cleared and

people that need to be communicated with and hostages that need to be rescued and the missions are chaotic.

We'll put them out with some task and then we'll we've got role players the role players are you know former seals or former Marines or

former army guys and so they'll be really good and they'll get hostile

and there's smoke and there's gunfire

and there's screaming and there's yelling and confusion.

And we'll watch this group and it's the training

is not for the tactics of the training.

It's for leadership.

It's to see how people respond in these chaotic situations and it's what these people get to

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