#463 – Douglas Murray: Putin, Zelenskyy, Trump, Israel, Netanyahu, Hamas & Gaza
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🗓️ 30 March 2025
⏱️ 196 minutes
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(48:40) - Peace
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(1:23:57) - Hamas
(1:38:30) - Corruption
(1:41:40) - Gaza
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| 0:00.0 | The following is a conversation with Douglas Murray, |
| 0:03.0 | author of The War in the West, The Madness of Crowds, |
| 0:07.0 | and his new book on democracies and death cults. |
| 0:10.0 | We talk about Russia and Ukraine and about Israel and Gaza. |
| 0:15.0 | Douglas has very strong views on these topics, |
| 0:19.0 | and he defends them brilliantly and fearlessly. |
| 0:23.0 | As I always try to do for all topics, I will also talk to people who have different views |
| 0:28.6 | from Douglas, including on the next episode of this podcast. |
| 0:32.7 | We live in an era of online discourse where grifters, drama farmers, liars, bots, sycophants, |
| 0:39.9 | and sociopaths roam the vast, beautiful dark land of the internet. |
| 0:44.9 | It's hard to know who to trust. |
| 0:48.3 | I believe no one is in possession of the entire truth. |
| 0:52.4 | But some are more correct than others. Some are insightful, |
| 0:57.2 | and some are delusional. The problem is it's hard to tell which is which, unless you use your |
| 1:04.8 | mind with intellectual humility and with rigor. I recommend you listen to many sources who disagree with each other |
| 1:12.8 | and try to pick up wisdom from each. Also, I recommend you visit the places in question, |
| 1:18.4 | as Douglas has, as I have, or at least talk face-to-face with people who have spent most of their |
| 1:26.2 | lives living there, whether it's |
| 1:28.3 | Israel, Palestine, Ukraine, or Russia. |
| 1:31.3 | Let's try together to not be cogs in the machine of outrage, and instead to reach toward |
| 1:39.3 | reason and compassion. There is no Hitler, Stalin, or Mao on the world stage today. Plus, there are |
| 1:47.3 | thousands of nuclear weapons ready to fire. Human civilization hangs in the balance. |
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