463: Cyril Derreumaux—In the Flow

The Way I Heard It with Mike Rowe

Society & Culture, History

4.8 • 39.1K Ratings

🗓️ 16 December 2025

⏱️ 88 minutes

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Summary

Mike sits down with adventurer, endurance athlete, and motivational speaker Cyril Derreumaux, a man who has spent an unusual amount of time alone with his thoughts—and the open ocean. Cyril talks Mike through his two 70-plus-day solo treks across both the Atlantic and the Pacific in a kayak. Mike and Cyril explore risk, resilience, and the fine line between careful preparation and total uncertainty. It's a conversation about discipline, humility, and why sometimes the hardest part of moving forward is learning when not to fight the current.

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0:00.0	Hey guys, it's the way I heard it. Mike Roe here with my new favorite crazy French guy.
0:09.7	You had an old favorite crazy French guy?
0:12.1	Well, Pepe LePue occupied a fair amount of real estate in my brain for many, many, many years.
0:16.5	But he has been eclipsed by the one and only Cyril Derimo.
0:22.4	Yes.
0:22.9	Who I get to know and who you will get to know momentarily.
0:27.9	I sort of know who this guy is.
0:30.4	And as you'll hear me say shortly, he's the kind of guy that I really wanted this podcast to be for and about. He's the kind
0:42.8	of guest, you know? Someone who you find interesting that you meet along the way accidentally.
0:49.2	Right. But I mean, I would describe him as a guy who talked his way onto the podcast.
0:55.2	He did that.
0:56.4	And you know what?
0:57.6	Lots of people try.
0:59.0	And sometimes it works.
1:00.3	But, you know, between production and logistics and timing and everything else, it's not
1:06.6	realistic to Forrest Gump your way through a podcast based on people you meet out in the real
1:11.5	world.
1:12.0	True.
1:12.7	But this guy came pedaling past me four years ago.
1:17.0	Yeah.
1:17.3	I was out for a ruck and he was training.
1:21.6	And he swung his bike around and he introduced himself.
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