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Take us back to the early days of your career.

What actually inspired you to become an economist in the first place?

Oh, my goodness.

Well, I'm a 50-year-old woman in the UK.

And so I was a teenager of the 1980s.

I remember, well, I was dancing to Duran-Juran in the early days of Madonna. I remember a famine in

Ethiopia. I remember a whole opening up in the ozone layer. I remember the Exxon Valdez ship

spilling oil into Alaska's waters. And so as a teenager, I had that open sense of, I want to help tackle these issues.

And I thought that learning economics would give me this mother tongue of public policy.

I thought it would equip me with the tools I needed to help do something about this.

So off I went to university and I studied economics. And I was just

so frustrated by what I learned because it just didn't touch on so many of these issues. They were

peripheral to what we were studying. You couldn't even study environmental economics in those days,

even though it's become such a crucial crisis in the world. So then I walked away

from economics. I was actually embarrassed ever by the idea of saying, hello, I'm an economist. You know,

I don't, I don't want to be that label. So I walked away from it. I worked for the UN for some years.

I worked for Oxfam for many years. And then actually, during the global financial crisis, I had tiny babies in arms.

I had twin babies right, right around then. And I remember hearing economists think, oh, it's time

to rewrite the economics to reflect the financial crisis and financial realities. And I just thought,

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