This is Jocko Podcast Number 461 with Echo Charles me Jocko Willing good evening

It was a good test it was a good way to figure out who really had the will to win and I'd already put them through some paces in the morning with your standard sprints and jumps and push-ups and buddy carries and made

him hit the surf and get wet and run a little bit more and all that kind of stuff.

You know what I mean? I tested them with some complicated

instructions in various physical and mental tasks that required leadership and

memory and attention to detail. This kind of stuff, right? And so then leadership and

memory and attention detail this kind of stuff right and so then as I'm really trying to parse out

Who wanted victory I came up with another test and this wasn't a complicated test.

I told them what they had to do was swim across the river.

This river's down by the ocean. Swim across the river. This river is down by the ocean. Swim across the river.

Go get the biggest possible rock that they could carry and then swim back and

whoever could put their rock at my feet,

whichever rock was the biggest would win.

And I figured it was a good test of more than strength.

I wasn't really thinking about that or endurance.

I wasn't really thinking about that.

I was thinking a good ability to

adapt because if you're going to carry a rock in one hand you're going to have to adjust your swimming

technique and whoever could adapt and keep up their speed on the swimming would be able to win.

So I gave him the starting command, which is standby,

bust them, and off they ran and they all sprinted into water you know ankle deep and

then waist deep and then chest deep and then because you know the river gets deeper

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