In the consult, we discuss cases involving violence, sexual violence, abduction, and murder.

Sometimes the cases we discuss involve children.

Listener discretion is advised.

Welcome to the consult.

I'm Julia Cowley, retired FBI agent and profiler.

And today is part two of my interview with Ed Denzel, the host of Unfound, a podcast that is dedicated to missing person cases.

So we're going to jump right back into our conversation, continuing to unpack the complexities

of these cases and the unique challenges that come with covering them.

If you haven't listened to part one of my interview with Ed, please go back

and do so because he talks about how he got into podcasting and what led him to create the

unfound podcast. I would like, so what I want to know is what would you consider maybe two examples of your most memorable breakthroughs or moments of resolutions that you've observed.

Okay. So two ones that really, you know, were solved that I'd expect that. That's a really good question. Number one, easily. What are the odds that the oldest disappearance that I ever featured that's a really good question number one easily what are the odds that the oldest

disappearance that I ever featured would be one of the ones that is solved from 1945

mary jane van gilder went missing from shelby ohio she worked at a plant that was part of the war effort

world war two's winding down. Germany's surrendered.

Japan's, you know, going to get bombed here in a couple weeks. Mary Jane Van Gilder, although she

is a mother and has children married from West Virginia, she's up in Shelby, Ohio, working at this

plant. And one day, she just decides, you know what, I'm done working here.

And when she said she didn't want to work anymore,

she had fill out some paperwork.

She wrote something along the lines of,

I'm quitting because I have new or more household duties or something like that.

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