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Hello and welcome to Real Crime Profile. This is Jim Clemente, former New York City prosecutor, retired FBI profiler, and currently writer and producer on CBS's Criminal Minds. With me today is...

Laura Richards, I'm Director and Founder of Paladin National Stalking Advocacy Service, and also Criminal Behavioral Analyst, Activist and Advocate, and also co-creator and co-producer on CBS's The Case of Jean-Bene Ramsey.

I am Lisa Zembeddie, I am the casting director for Criminal Minds and Criminal Minds Beyond Borders, where Jim Clemente is my colleague, and I have a real interest in Real Crime and the minds that solve those crimes.

Today we're really excited to be sitting down with Heather McDonald, who is also one of the Wondry podcasters, and she's also the star of Juicy Scoop.

We're going to be discussing today, and it will be somewhat wild, and certainly unscripted, but we're really looking forward to talking about the gift of listening with Heather.

Well, I first want to apologize to you, because I did not recognize you from the Jean-Bene documentary. I only recognize the beautiful blonde.

Yeah, I'm certainly not the beautiful blonde, so don't worry about it.

No, I'm sorry, thank you Heather, those three kinds.

I was making a joke, I was making light of it, because...

He wanted to be recognized, though.

Yeah, you literally were yelling at me.

How could you not recognize me on your head?

You're so distinct looking.

I didn't wear my hat on the show.

Well, it was an amazing... I guess you'd say documentary, it was a documentary.

It was a re-investigation.

But it was really just... I mean, everyone could not stop talking about it, so to have you guys here is great.

I mean, I was listening to ones about...

It was interesting, because I was looking to listen to some, I was like, who...

What's the murder of Meredith?

It was really known as the Amanda Knoxville case, except Meredith was the actual victim, and so it was really cool that you guys focused on her and gave her a name that I don't think a lot of people remember.

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