46. Minnie Pheby - Lady Burglar
Lady Killers with Lucy Worsley
BBC
4.7 • 908 Ratings
🗓️ 24 June 2025
⏱️ 29 minutes
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Summary
Lucy Worsley meets Minnie Pheby, a strong and agile young woman who defies all the gender stereotypes of Victorian society – not a homemaker, but a homebreaker. She’s the devil compared with the idealised ‘angel in the house’, sneaking into middle class homes in the dead of night. In West London as the Victorian era draws to a close, Minnie sleeps on a pillow of stolen dresses in a squat furnished with life’s little luxuries, all the proceeds of crime.
Lucy is joined by former Detective Chief Inspector Jackie Malton, famously the inspiration for Prime Suspect’s DCI Jane Tennison, who knows Minnie’s patch very well. She gives her expert insights on burglary, women in policing and what really makes a difference for repeat offenders like Minnie.
With historian Professor Rosalind Crone, Lucy and Jackie investigate Minnie’s past and discover if she ever hangs up her swag bag for good. Lucy and Ros test their mettle as undercover operatives in Shepherd’s Bush, staking out the house where Minnie was first arrested. Will Jackie be impressed by their efforts?
Together, the all-female team ask how common were lady burglars? How were they portrayed in the press? Why were the Victorians both appalled and fascinated by their physical capabilities and boldness?
Producer: Sarah Goodman Readers: Clare Corbett, Jonathan Keeble and Alex Phelps Sound design: Chris Maclean Executive producer: Kirsty Hunter
A StoryHunter production for BBC Radio 4.
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| 0:43.8 | You're about to listen to a brand new series of ladies swindlers with Lucy Worsley. |
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| 1:00.3 | Welcome to Lady Swindlers from BBC Radio 4 with me, Lucy Worsley. |
| 1:06.0 | This is where history meets true crime with a twist. |
| 1:12.1 | Join us as we travel back in time and across the world, tailing scammers, crooks and conwomen, |
| 1:21.0 | women from all walks of life who found themselves on the wrong side of the law. |
| 1:26.9 | Today on Lady Swindlers's meet a magpie, |
| 1:30.1 | a one-woman crime spree, |
| 1:32.8 | a thief who stole and stole and stole. |
| 1:36.3 | An opal brooch, a silver jam spoon. |
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