This is Jocco Podcast number 46 with Echo Charles and me, Jocco Willink. Good evening, echo. Good evening.

There is a little survival instinct. It's very subtle.

But I would notice it sometimes in a combat situation.

When guys are thinking that enemy fire at any time could open up and kill them, you'd see some guys subconsciously.

They just try and make themselves a little bit of a smaller target. They just kind of slouch their backs down a little bit and they just kind of bow their head just a tad.

It's not a bad thing to do. I don't think guys actually think about it. I don't think they consciously do it. I think it just kind of happens.

It happens when you think you could get shot at any moment.

It's likely a good instinct to have.

When we first got to Ramadi, we were out on patrol and I saw one of my guys on a real patrol.

I saw patrols my first time seeing this particular guy on a real patrol. It was in the Malab district of Ramadi, which was just an enemy controlled cesspool of violence with threats everywhere.

As I saw this guy, he was standing straight up.

Just standing straight up. His head was held high. His weapon was at the ready. He was scanning. He was hunting.

There was no slouch in his back. There was no lowering of his head. There was no fear apparent on his face or in his posture. He was just boldly facing the threat.

Standing tall.

Now you've heard me talk about some of my guys in task unit bruiser that I worried about.

I thought that they basically had too much courage and it didn't seem like that kind of attitude was survivable.

Day after day after day after bloody day in Ramadi. But somehow, some way through some divine providence, this particular brave soul did survive and actually thrived in that environment in the battle of Ramadi.

Now, the battle of Ramadi with task unit bruiser. Now, task unit bruiser was made up of two seal platoons, Charlie Patoon and Delta Patoon.

Charlie Patoon we've talked about before.

Lave Fabin was the Patoon commander Tony Afrati who's been on the podcast. BTF Tony. He was the Patoon chief and the lead sniper for Charlie Patoon was Chris Kyle.

And in the other Patoon Delta Patoon where Andrew Paul who's also been on the podcast. He was the assistant Patoon commander and the point man and sniper the lead point man and lead sniper for Delta Patoon was that guy was the guy that I just described walking through the literal Valley of death.

With his head held high.

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