You rent some heavy equipment, like a skidsteer loader or a teramite backhoe.

Just make sure you know where your utilities are before you start playing around that stuff.

Ask me how I know.

If you're going to rent a backhoe, then you just used to talk about in addition to the screen porch.

Welcome to the Fine Home Building podcast, a weekly discussion of building,

building, remodeling, and design topics aimed at anybody who cares deeply about the craft

and science of working on houses.

This is Senior Editor Patrick McComb. Today I'm joined by operations manager for TDS Customs Construction, Ian Schwant.

How you doing, Patrick?

Fine Home Building editorial director, Andrew Zellner.

Hey, Patrick.

And our producer, Jeff Rose.

Hi there. Please email your questions to FHB Podcast at taunton.com. You can find previous podcasts and check out the show notes at findhomebuilding.com slash podcast. Well, it's a pleasure to see you guys this

morning. How are you all? Doing good. What are you been working on, Ian? You got that

screen porch done yet? No, we started on it last weekend. My father-in-law and I, we started putting

down what will be the cedar frame for it that'll hold the screenies. So we'll keep cracking at it we can so is the cedar part like

a guardrail uh too or is it just meant to hold the screen panels it's meant to hold the screen panels

but i attached them to the deck framing standing up so then it makes kind of a nice kickplate so that you don't

walk up to the screen and put your foot through it.

Put your foot through it.

But yeah, we only had like 20 mile an hour winds hitting the deck, so it wasn't that bad.

I heard.

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