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Okay, we're back with another episode of more from Sam.

Hi, Sam. Hey. How you doing? Good to see you, too. Before we begin, I just want to quickly run

through yet again your upcoming shows. L.A. was amazing, by the way. Yeah, that was a good

crowd. Yeah, it was a great one. Again, for the audience, Sam will be giving a talk in a number of cities in North America this year. Next week, we are in Dallas and Austin. And March, we're in Portland and Vancouver. And then May, we're in Toronto, D.C. and wrapping up things again in New York. If you'd like tickets, you can find all the information at samharris.org. And also, I just have to announce

that yesterday, the waking up app was named App of the Day in the Apple store. Oh, yeah, that's great. Yeah, like all overnight sensations. It only took us seven years. Yeah. Yeah, in the making. Yeah, I don't know what took so long, but that was, hopefully that's helpful. Graphically, It looks great.

It looks amazing.

I think they did a great job.

The app is bigger than ever, and I can only imagine it's at least. hopefully that's helpful. Graphically, it looks great. It looks amazing.

I think they did a great job.

The app is bigger than ever, and I can only imagine it's at least due in part to many of the things we discuss here on the podcast. So if you're listening right now and been meaning to try it out, you can find waking up in the app store, but now with a big shiny Apple endorsement. All right. Last week, we began in Minneapolis, and this week we're unfortunately back in Minneapolis again with another utterly depressed and killing this time

of Alex Prettie, again by what appears to be very poorly trained ICE officers. What's happened

there? Oh, yeah, beyond. I don't even know. I mean, this is poorly trained, poorly vetted.

I mean, this is just people who are

not behaving like law enforcement officers that are recognizable. The most amazing thing about this

killing, apart from how pointless and horrible it was, is the response or a lack of response

from the gun owners of America.

I mean, there's been a few tepid complaints from gun organizations,

but we would be in a completely different world if this had happened under Biden

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