455. From Addict to UltraRunner: The Ultimate Redemption Arc with Andy Glaze

The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Michael Mogill

Michael Mogill

Marketing, Entrepreneurship, Business, Management

5.0 • 539 Ratings

🗓️ 21 April 2026

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

What if the fastest way to build mental toughness is to choose the hard thing on purpose? In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with Andy Glaze. Andy is an ultrarunner, firefighter, and author of Smile, or You're Doing It Wrong. He’s built a following by documenting what it really takes to keep moving when your body and brain are begging you to quit. Together, they break down why high performers chase extreme challenges, what ultramarathons reveal about failure and resilience, and how to apply those lessons to leadership, business, and life. Here's what you'll learn: Why high performers deliberately seek challenges with a real chance of failure, and how that mirrors entrepreneurship. How to build durability through “time on your feet” and zone 2 discipline, instead of relying on intensity and motivation. Why learning to reframe pain, setbacks, and criticism is a competitive advantage in business and in life. If you’ve been waiting to feel ready before you take your next big leap, this episode will challenge that mindset. ---- Show Notes: (00:00:00) Introduction (00:02:34) How Andy's 100-mile runs changed Michael's view of limits (00:03:18) How Andy got into ultrarunning in his 30s (00:05:20) Why runners go beyond the marathon (00:07:01) Why ultrarunners are wired like high performers (00:09:46) What a 200+ mile race actually feels like (00:23:50) The link between addiction and endurance sports (00:29:51) How Andy handles online hate (00:33:17) Why DNF matters (00:39:08) The real cost of chasing big goals (00:47:35) How Andy defines success ---- Links & Resources: Andy Glaze Andy Glaze on Instagram Andy Glaze on TikTok Smile, or You’re Doing it Wrong by Andy Glaze Moab 240 Western States Endurance Run 100-Mile Ketone IQ ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 415. Why Your Limits Might Be Your Greatest Asset with Kyle Maynard 255. Joe De Sena — The Spartan Mindset: Embracing Discomfort and Unleashing Mental Toughness 229. David Goggins — Never Finished: Unshackle Your Mind and Win the War Within

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0:00.0	The hard part about the multiple day, the 200-mile races, is like, you have to figure out how to sleep.
0:08.7	Because if you don't sleep, you will literally fall asleep while you're running.
0:14.1	That's Andy Glaze, renowned ultra-runner, firefighter, and the author of Smile or You're Doing It Wrong.
0:20.4	And so in order to combat that, I'll do like little maybe 10 minute naps here or there to kind of reset me.
0:26.4	If you think of the brain, like a computer or your phone, when your phone starts to get slow, what do you do?
0:31.7	You reset it.
0:32.5	It starts working better again.
0:33.9	Same with the computer.
0:34.8	You got to do the same thing to your brain.
0:36.2	So a 10 minute nap will kind of refresh you i'm michael mogul founder and CEO of crisp the nation's number one law
0:49.0	from growth company i've built my business through practice not theory crisp started with just
0:53.7	$500 to my name and has grown to over eight figures in revenue
0:56.9	over the last few years, earning a spot on the Inc. 500 list of the fastest growing private
1:01.4	companies in America.
1:02.7	Our approach has been to take everything we've learned about generating massive growth
1:06.1	within our own organization and help the country's most ambitious and committed
1:09.6	from owners do the same for theirs.
1:11.6	In each episode of this podcast, I sit down with innovative market leaders from the legal industry
1:15.8	and beyond to learn from those who thrive in the face of adversity, challenge the status quo,
1:20.7	and define what it means to be a true game changer. I sat down with Andy to discuss how to turn
1:26.4	your past failures into your greatest competitive
1:28.2	advantage, dealing with the haters by flipping the script, and how to achieve what others believe
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