452. AMMA — The Unexpected Truth About Happiness, Work Ethic, and Priorities

The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Michael Mogill

Michael Mogill

Marketing, Entrepreneurship, Business, Management

5.0 • 539 Ratings

🗓️ 9 April 2026

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Summary

A great culture means nothing if your business isn’t winning. And being busy doesn’t mean you’re effective. In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill tackle three questions that expose tensions most firm owners feel but rarely address head-on. The first reveals how prioritizing happiness over performance can quietly cap your growth, the second explores the guilt that comes when success requires less hustle than you think it should, and the third shows what happens when partnership paralysis becomes more comfortable than forward movement. This conversation unpacks the difference between a strong culture and a stagnant one, why working fewer hours might mean you built something right, and why being right matters far less than being willing to move. Here's what you'll learn: Why a culture where everyone gets along can still be the wrong culture for scaling, and how to tell the difference How to shift from the time-and-effort economy to the results-and-judgment economy as your firm matures Why partnership gridlock reveals misalignment on something deeper than the decision itself If your firm feels stuck, scattered, or slower than it should be, this episode will help you identify what’s really holding you back. ---- 03:00 — Why the best decisions often come from saying yes to the experience, not the timing 06:22 — When a “great culture” starts quietly holding your business back 06:42 — The uncomfortable truth about why you can’t control your team’s happiness 08:09 — Why winning is the foundation of every truly strong culture 10:37 — What it really means when your business improves as you work less 12:11 — Why letting go of hours worked is necessary to actually scale 15:13 — Why being “right” matters less than simply moving forward 17:00 — The real cost of being stuck in indecision with a business partner ---- Links & Resources: Death Stranding Hideo Kojima Ratatouille ---- Learn what sustainable growth can look like for your firm at crispcoach.com. ---- Do you love this podcast and want to see more game changing content? Subscribe to our YouTube channel. ---- Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more. ---- If you enjoyed this episode, you may also like: 436. AMMA — The Bigger The Firm, The Bigger The Problems 395. AMMA — Why Consensus Slows Growth and How to Fix It 177. AMMA – Ask Michael Mogill Anything: Energy, Effectiveness, and Entrepreneurial Guilt

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0:00.0	I don't give a shit if I'm right. Let's move forward. Maybe I'm wrong and we move forward and we make more money when the business is more successful and I'm wrong all day, baby. I don't care.
0:19.3	I'm Michael Logel, founder and CEO of Crisp, the nation's number one law from growth company.
0:23.6	I've built my business through practice, not theory.
0:26.6	Crisp started with just $500 to my name and has grown to over eight figures in revenue over the last few years,
0:31.6	earning a spot on the Inc 500 list of the fastest growing private companies in America.
0:36.6	Our approach has been to take everything we've learned about generating massive growth
0:40.0	within our own organization and help the country's most ambitious and committed in law
0:43.8	from owners do the same for theirs.
0:45.7	In each episode of this podcast, I sit down with innovative market leaders from the legal
0:49.4	industry and beyond to learn from those who thrive in the face of adversity, challenge
0:53.7	the status quo,
0:54.7	and define what it means to be a true game changer.
0:58.3	This is Jessica, head of coaching strategy at Chris, and today we're flipping the script
1:02.7	for another special edition episode to get Michael's take on, balancing a positive team culture
1:07.8	with the need for growth, navigating the guilt associated with achieving results while working less, and how to resolve long-standing stalemates to prevent competitive stagnation. You could be right, you could be wrong, he could be right, he could be wrong, but you're both wrong when you're not making the decision. And if both people are certain that they are right and they're not willing to be moved, I think it's more important to align on what this progress look like versus why is it more
1:29.9	important for us to be right.
1:32.5	That's coming up on the Game Changing Attorney podcast.
1:46.6	All right. welcome back.
1:49.9	We were back, back domestically.
1:52.3	Domestically, we traveled.
1:53.9	Traveling internationally.
1:58.2	We took, like, an hour and a half flight to Toronto.
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