Hello and welcome to best case, worst case.

This is Jim Clementi, retired FBI profiler, former New York City prosecutor and writer-producer

of criminal minds.

With me today is the lovely...

Maureen O'Connell, 25-year FBI agent, now retired.

I own my own security company, and I was on the FBI's forensics team for almost 20 years.

And with us today is my friend and former head of the ERT team in Los Angeles.

Hi, this is Frankicazaki in Guam.

Not so far away, but at a distance.

That's a pretty good distance. I was in Guam only once in my life because I was testifying in a trial in Camp Italy,

and then I had to go to a conference in the Philippines, they didn't want me instead of flying me one

third of the way around the world to from Italy to the Philippines they flew me from Venice to

Rome to DC to LA to Hawaii to Guam to the, which took me about 40 hours. And I literally, when I landed,

they had forgotten about the international date line that I had to cross. And so they thought

I had another day, but I literally had about a half hour from the time I got out of the airport to the

time I started that conference. It was crazy. Yeah. You know, from Italy, it would have been

quicker if you just flew over Russia, China, you know. Yeah. No, I know. That's what I said. They wouldn't

do it. They wouldn't do it. They made me go two-thirds of the way around the world instead of one-third of the way around the world.

We worked a bombing overseas one time and had to, it's the same thing. We had like a 40-hour day flight and then had to hit the ground running. And on the way back, my back seized up so badly halfway through, but I pushed all the way through.

And then to come back, I said, I'm going first class.

I'm going to upgrade and I'm going to get it paid for.

And everyone's like, there is no way in hell.

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