#449: Interview with "Victim/Suspect" Reporter Rae de Leon and Director Nancy Schwartzman | Part 2
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4.2 • 10.5K Ratings
🗓️ 16 June 2023
⏱️ 32 minutes
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Jim and Laura continue their conversation with investigative journalist Rae de Leon and filmmaker Nancy Schwartzman who disclose even more shocking details not shown in their new documentary “Victim/Suspect”. You will not believe the rest of the story in Dynanie Bermeo’s case regarding a suspect who police refused to investigate in her sexual assault. Nancy asks Jim and Laura for their take on reasons for the persistent obfuscation and lack of accountability by the law enforcement departments covered in the documentary.
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, Prime Members, you can listen to Real Crime Profile ad-free on Amazon Music. Download the app today. |
| 0:14.0 | Hey lovely listeners and welcome to Real Crime Profile. I'm Laura Richards, Criminal Behavioral Analyst, |
| 0:19.0 | former New Scotland Yard Founder of Paladin National Stalking Advocacy Service and Host of the Podcast Crime Analyst. |
| 0:25.0 | And with me today is... |
| 0:27.0 | Hi, I'm Jim Clemente, retired FBI Profile of Former New York City Prosecutor and right producer of Criminal Minds. |
| 0:32.0 | And today we have two very special guests. |
| 0:35.0 | Hi, I'm Ray Dilione, I'm a reporter and a producer and I was in the brand new documentary Victim Suspect. |
| 0:43.0 | And I am Nancy Schwartzman, I am the director and producer of Victim Suspect. |
| 0:50.0 | So let's dive back in where we left off. We still have so much more to ask you about the documentary victim suspect. |
| 0:57.0 | But what you're describing to me, Rachel, is the old boys network. I mean, I'm covering the Murdoch case at the moment and re-investigating that. |
| 1:06.0 | And the old boys network is what allowed Alec Murdoch to get away with things for so long. And it's invisible to most of us. |
| 1:13.0 | We just don't see it. And I think you mentioning actually all the other layers that supported and backed up the investigation. |
| 1:21.0 | I mean, I was just reading what the judge said on the appeal in Dianei's case. |
| 1:26.0 | And I was really not surprised, angry about the judge saying, I believe this is a very tough case. |
| 1:34.0 | I don't believe the police officers are the bad guys, but I don't believe Miss Burmio lied. |
| 1:39.0 | What? |
| 1:41.0 | Because who are the bad guys? |
| 1:43.0 | It's like a great piss. |
| 1:44.0 | Is that how do you figure that statement out? And she was obviously very relieved that she was found not to be lying. |
| 1:50.0 | But why would she make this up? What would be her motivation? What would be her gain? |
| 1:55.0 | And unfortunately, someone has to be accountable here, right? You can't just try and send someone to prison without giving your reason why there wasn't an investigation, a thorough investigation. |
| 2:07.0 | Even though the sheriff is saying he's standing by the deputies, but it seemed to be a failure around the investigation. |
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