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Jocko Podcast

449: Be Loyal To Your Team, Friends, and Your Dogs. With Jay Kopelman

Jocko Podcast

Jocko DEFCOR Network

Management, History, Business

4.831.3K Ratings

🗓️ 31 July 2024

⏱️ 166 minutes

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Kopelman began his military career in the US Navy in 1985, training to become a Naval Aviator, and then transferred to the Marine Corps in 1992, where he continued to fly before becoming a forward air controller and earning his gold naval parachutist wings. His last assignment was as the Deputy Director for advisor training at Camp Pendleton.



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0:00.0

This is Jocko Podcast Number 449 with Echo Charles and me Jocko Willink.

0:04.3

Good evening.

0:08.8

In an abandoned house in the northeast section of Fallujah,

0:11.9

members of the 1st Battalion third Marines known as the

0:15.3

Lava Dogs froze when they heard a series of clicks coming from one remaining room of the compound.

0:22.8

grenade pins.

0:24.4

Most of the military deaths in Fallujah

0:26.0

during that first week of the US invasion

0:27.8

happened inside buildings like this,

0:30.0

where insurgents hid in upper rooms

0:31.9

and threw grenades

0:32.7

down at the Marines as they moved upward.

0:36.2

There were a lot of head and face injuries.

0:39.4

And while the lava dogs considered themselves

0:42.1

some of the toughest

0:43.0

Marines around. They named themselves out of respect

0:46.0

for the jagged pumice they trained on back in Hawaii.

0:49.0

Just being a lava dog didn't shield you from a grenade's fancy special effects.

0:56.3

Being careful did.

0:57.8

Being focused did.

0:59.6

Having your weapon locked and loaded when you inched around every corner did.

1:04.0

Click, click, click,

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