448: ‘Twins Named John’, With Stephen Hackett
The Talk Show With John Gruber
John Gruber
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🗓️ 31 May 2026
⏱️ 111 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Stephen Hackett, you talked me through, I don't even know how to describe it. I just want to dive right into it. |
| 0:06.9 | You talked me through something crazy, sort of. I don't know. Do you have the impression that you was like, I didn't even do anything? |
| 0:15.7 | A little bit. Yeah, so you texted me dealing with this Apple account issue that, like, you can't set it up a little bit. |
| 0:21.6 | A lot of people, I think, are in the boat that you and I found ourselves in. |
| 0:25.5 | We had an Apple ID from back in the day. |
| 0:28.1 | They were using for, like, mine was like from iTunes purchases, like buying music, emo music in 2004 to put on my iPod. |
| 0:34.8 | But that's not the Apple account I used for my ICloud stuff for various |
| 0:40.3 | reasons. And that just opens a whole world of hurt. It's so complicated that it is even hard |
| 0:50.0 | to state the problem as opposed to describe what I think is the solution. But it's basically |
| 0:56.7 | for the people with the dual accounts, which you said well, where your ICloud ID, aka your |
| 1:04.5 | primary Apple account. And I actually, in this case, it's actually ever so slightly more difficult to talk about with the new lingo of Apple accounts as opposed to Apple IDs. |
| 1:17.1 | So if I say Apple ID, you know what I mean because it's a little bit easier to think of them as IDs. |
| 1:22.5 | But anyway, I've got a Mac.com Apple ID. This is my iCloud life. This is where I get mail there. All my |
| 1:31.3 | iCloud storage is there. It is part of a family with my wife and my son. But my media and |
| 1:38.9 | purchases account is secondary. And that's an ad daring fireball address for reasons I don't even remember. |
| 1:47.8 | But I know that it started when I started buying music on iTunes. |
| 1:51.3 | We were also innocent back then, right? And the system was so simple, right? It's like, buy music, |
| 1:56.6 | wrap it in, was it fair play, was there, DRM? And put it on the iPod. Yeah. That's, |
| 2:00.9 | that's all it had to do in the beginning. Yeah. And I didn't give much thought to. I have no |
| 2:07.1 | recollection of why I decided to use my main daring fireball.net address as that address. And I guess, |
| 2:16.8 | I think I, at some point, it doesn't even matter at this point, guess I think I, to some point, |
| 2:18.7 | it doesn't even matter at this point, |
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