Adam Liesigore, welcome back to the show. It has been too long.

Thank you so much. Thank you so much for having me again. You got a lot going on. Do you want to talk about the Vision Pro stuff first, and then we'll get to Hovercraft? Yeah, just get right into it. You know, there's no warm up, huh? You've got a lot going on, too. You've got a lot of things going on. But you... Yeah, no small. That's all right.

We get small talk in other ways.

We don't want to invite the audience into the living room. We'll get the small talk in mid show on

digressions. I don't know. Yeah, that makes sense. Okay. Let's do that. Yes, I've got a lot going on.

Sandwich Vision was a company that I set up to start doing

Vision Pro stuff. The first thing I did was television, which is a cute little novelty app where you can put

television in your space, in your immersive space. I made that with a co-developer Andy Roth, who is a seasoned Apple developer.

He works on ORA ring full-time. So we built television. It was really fun to just work in that

space. And then it was about what comes next. This device is obviously so good for entertainment, maybe primarily for

entertainment for certainly a lot of people. Maybe that's where a lot of the business case is for it.

It's not quite the office workhorse that people maybe assumed that it would be being an Apple

product. But since entertainment was such a strong

direction to go in, we started thinking, like, what's another screen? And another screen is a

movie theater. And so we made an app called theater. And the ambition was to put movies on it.

And that was the dream is like, let's make people nice movie theater spaces they can sit in

and then watch the movies that they want to watch.

The dream was honestly to like partner as like almost be a movie theater, like partner

with distributors, get access to films, first run films.

That is obviously a very old and entrenched business

that's hard to crack into. You think so? But when I brought, yeah, yeah, a little bit.

I mean, it's interesting that the, that the content is going in the other direction, that immersive

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