Welcome back to the podcast. We've got my good buddy, an old friend Michael Traynor in the house.

Michael Traynor was on this podcast many years ago when I first got to On It, I believe.

Out of Venice, I think he was living. So a really good crew out there back in the day. And I think Michael's coming here. So we rehash. You don't have to go back and listen to the old podcast. I'm like, give us the quick report of what your life's work was. And we go freaking deep in this podcast. His story and what he's

been up to has been absolutely incredible. He's been on one hell of a journey since we last spoke.

And I can't wait to see what this dude has written as an author. I mean, I'm literally chomping at the bit as a guy who devours books. I have had a lot of friends write books and fortunately they've been pretty damn good books, at least not boring. They've been informative, you know, and they've been funny. This one I think is going to hit, I think it's going to strike the heart like an arrow. So super, super proud of

Michael. He's an awesome person. Tall, too. He's fucking taller than I am. Just a great guy, great guy all the way through and through, and he's doing great work in the world. Share this with your friends and enjoy. Michael Traynor. Let's go. Michael Traynor, the return. Thank you for coming on the podcast. This is so cool getting you have you here at the farm for the first time.

Man, I've been hearing about it, and I'm honored to be here, I'll say. I love seeing you deeply immersed in nature. Is there no better place? There's no better place. No. It's church. Yeah. I mean, even here, like in the office, I love this office. To me, it's a library

more than it's an office. You know, it's like the study. Yeah. I called the office, but it's the study, you know, if we were playing clue. But you see the plants in here are just like, I just love these guys. I had these vines with the first, for some of the first house plants we got, we moved to Texas.

We're these guys right here.

Yeah, they're super healthy.

I mean, I think that's the thing, right?

These are like plants, they're super healthy. I mean, I think

that's the thing, right? These are like plants, and I think we as well, we're kind of like

thermostats, you know, for our environment. And it's like when you see this plant and it's shiny

and happy, you know it's in a good place. I feel like with people, unfortunately, we don't

pay as much attention, but this is well,

well maintained and well loved. That's for sure. Yeah. Well, the nature piece is the best part of it.

I think that's what I've got into is like even in an office space or whatever you want to call it,

bring a nature in. Yeah. It's such a big component to my sense of well-being, getting to hang with these little guys. They're here working with our heart chakros right at now as we're shooting the shit and catching up. Yeah, it's amazing how much plants just affect our overall, I feel like, psychology, but also just our physiology, right? We're talking a little earlier about allergens. Like I I just escaped. Part of the reason I left Los Angeles was because of the mold. And the plants were what saved me. The plants were, you know, kept me in a good way. Yeah. But without that, I was stuffed. So you just moved here? Is that correct? Yeah. Okay, in the process? Yeah, I'm in the process. To be

frank, actually, this is quite beautiful because I've been in the proverbial cave, not a literal

cave, but proverbial cave for the last few years writing this book. And so to me, I've been in my

own little space. I've gone like deeply internal. I've done some deep work as well, some medicine work. But yeah, this is, honestly, seeing you is kind of my first little coming out of the cave moment. What a fucking honor. Yeah, man. That's great. Well, I just feel like you're such a heart-centered, beautiful human, you know? And so, yeah, it's always an honor to be in your presence. And I was like, all right, you know, if I'm going to come out of the cave, let's go see Kyle. But yes, long story short, I've been on a bit of a walkabout. Fuck, that's fantastic. We're going to dive into that as like the meat and potatoes of this podcast, but give people, you're a, it's kind of hard to say what you do. It's kind of hard

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